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Re: The Emirates FA Cup – Quarter Finals (Sat 16th & Sun
17th MAR 2019)
DIR By: Comeonref
Date: March 12, 2019, 7:42 am
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I do not have a gripe with any of the appointments that have
been made. I do however have a problem with the use of VAR. it
should be available at all the games or none of the games. It is
completely unfair to offer the opportunity of a mistake made
right to four of the teams and the same opportunity not
available to the other four teams. Particularly now at the
quarterfinals stage. Only 4 games. The two all premier league
games both have VAR. the two with Championship teams at home do
not have it. I don’t know whether only PL teams have everything
that is needed. If that is the case then all four games should
not have VAR. All the games or none of the games.
#Post#: 5903--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Emirates FA Cup – Quarter Finals (Sat 16th & Sun
17th MAR 2019)
DIR By: Hendo
Date: March 12, 2019, 9:14 am
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--- Quote from: Comeonref link ---
>
> I do not have a gripe with any of the appointments that have
been made. I do however have a problem with the use of VAR. it
should be available at all the games or none of the games. It is
completely unfair to offer the opportunity of a mistake made
right to four of the teams and the same opportunity not
available to the other four teams. Particularly now at the
quarterfinals stage. Only 4 games. The two all premier league
games both have VAR. the two with Championship teams at home do
not have it. I don’t know whether only PL teams have everything
that is needed. If that is the case then all four games should
not have VAR. All the games or none of the games.
>
--- End Quote ---
Totally agree 👍🏻
#Post#: 5904--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Emirates FA Cup – Quarter Finals (Sat 16th & Sun
17th MAR 2019)
DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
Date: March 12, 2019, 9:46 am
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--- Quote from: Comeonref link ---
>
> I do not have a gripe with any of the appointments that have
been made. I do however have a problem with the use of VAR. it
should be available at all the games or none of the games. It is
completely unfair to offer the opportunity of a mistake made
right to four of the teams and the same opportunity not
available to the other four teams. Particularly now at the
quarterfinals stage. Only 4 games. The two all premier league
games both have VAR. the two with Championship teams at home do
not have it. I don’t know whether only PL teams have everything
that is needed. If that is the case then all four games should
not have VAR. All the games or none of the games.
>
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I would have also put Kavanagh on an VAR officiating game in the
middle. Reason being is that we have a few issues with our FIFA
officials apparently inexperienced to work with VAR in European
games, and the more exposure is essential seeing as most of the
other top nations are fluent in it ( unless you are named
Irrati). 😳
#Post#: 5905--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Emirates FA Cup – Quarter Finals (Sat 16th & Sun
17th MAR 2019)
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: March 12, 2019, 11:14 am
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--- Quote from: Comeonref link ---
>
> I do not have a gripe with any of the appointments that have
been made. I do however have a problem with the use of VAR. it
should be available at all the games or none of the games. It is
completely unfair to offer the opportunity of a mistake made
right to four of the teams and the same opportunity not
available to the other four teams. Particularly now at the
quarterfinals stage. Only 4 games. The two all premier league
games both have VAR. the two with Championship teams at home do
not have it. I don’t know whether only PL teams have everything
that is needed. If that is the case then all four games should
not have VAR. All the games or none of the games.
>
--- End Quote ---
I don't agree with the frequent suggestion that no games with
VAR is better than some games with VAR. Everton went out of the
FA Cup in a game where a handball was missed by the officials -
the goal would obviously have been disallowed with VAR. I d on't
see that it makes any difference to Everton what happens after
that.
I think that VAR should be used as much as possible and its use
is necessary at this point in the process - I don't think it
would be reasonable to introduce it full-time to the Premier
League without English officials ever having used the system
before in a competitive game. To this end though I do think VAR
should have been used at all four FA Cup quarter-finals
considering all quarter-final/semi-final games in the League Cup
had VAR, even though two of them were played at non-Premier
League grounds. (I suppose some might make the argument at this
stage that it is 'unfair' to change the policy of only using it
at Premier League grounds so late in the competition.)
The one point I would make, as I have done before, is that I
think retrospective punishment should be taken in situations
where a referee does not administer a red card in a non-VAR game
where there is a high probability the VAR would have altered
that decision and led to a red card being shown. This would
ensure an equality in any suspensions subsequently served. I do
think the stance that incidents cannot be re-refereed after the
game if the officials have seen the incident is outdated in an
era of VAR.
#Post#: 5906--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Emirates FA Cup – Quarter Finals (Sat 16th & Sun
17th MAR 2019)
DIR By: Ref Watcher
Date: March 12, 2019, 11:35 am
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--- Quote from: Readingfan link ---
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> [quote author=Comeonref link=topic=634.msg5901#msg5901
date=1552394560]
> I do not have a gripe with any of the appointments that have
been made. I do however have a problem with the use of VAR. it
should be available at all the games or none of the games. It is
completely unfair to offer the opportunity of a mistake made
right to four of the teams and the same opportunity not
available to the other four teams. Particularly now at the
quarterfinals stage. Only 4 games. The two all premier league
games both have VAR. the two with Championship teams at home do
not have it. I don’t know whether only PL teams have everything
that is needed. If that is the case then all four games should
not have VAR. All the games or none of the games.
>
--- End Quote ---
I don't agree with the frequent suggestion that no games with
VAR is better than some games with VAR. Everton went out of the
FA Cup in a game where a handball was missed by the officials -
the goal would obviously have been disallowed with VAR. I d on't
see that it makes any difference to Everton what happens after
that.
[/quote]
I am with you Reading Fan. Similarly just because not all games
in the fourth round could have FIFA referees there would be no
reason to exclude all FIFA referees until later in the
competition. Just use the best tools available. (And no, I
didn't have anyone in particular in mind when I used the word
tool. :o)
#Post#: 5910--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Emirates FA Cup – Quarter Finals (Sat 16th & Sun
17th MAR 2019)
DIR By: ajb95
Date: March 12, 2019, 1:16 pm
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The other games can't have VAR can they as they are not set up
with the technology; its only PL grounds, unless I'm mistaken?
Could someone please clarify
#Post#: 5920--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Emirates FA Cup – Quarter Finals (Sat 16th & Sun
17th MAR 2019)
DIR By: bmb
Date: March 12, 2019, 7:24 pm
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--- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
>
> The other games can't have VAR can they as they are not set up
with the technology; its only PL grounds, unless I'm mistaken?
> Could someone please clarify
>
--- End Quote ---
I believe this is correct.
#Post#: 5923--------------------------------------------------
Re: The Emirates FA Cup – Quarter Finals (Sat 16th & Sun
17th MAR 2019)
DIR By: flipmode
Date: March 12, 2019, 10:47 pm
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> Those who do not understand how it works are bound to pick up
that Messrs Mason and Tierney get boards and link it to what
happened at the weekend
>
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I heard they got dropped... ;D
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Re: The Emirates FA Cup – Quarter Finals (Sat 16th & Sun
17th MAR 2019)
DIR By: ajb95
Date: March 13, 2019, 2:56 am
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--- Quote from: bmb link ---
>
> [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=634.msg5910#msg5910
date=1552414569]
> The other games can't have VAR can they as they are not set up
with the technology; its only PL grounds, unless I'm mistaken?
> Could someone please clarify
>
--- End Quote ---
I believe this is correct.
[/quote]
Thanks Gayle!
I don’t understand why people are moaning then! It can only be
used at premier league grounds!
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Re: The Emirates FA Cup – Quarter Finals (Sat 16th & Sun
17th MAR 2019)
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: March 13, 2019, 3:51 am
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--- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
>
> [quote author=bmb link=topic=634.msg5920#msg5920
date=1552436677]
> [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=634.msg5910#msg5910
date=1552414569]
> The other games can't have VAR can they as they are not set up
with the technology; its only PL grounds, unless I'm mistaken?
> Could someone please clarify
>
--- End Quote ---
I believe this is correct.
[/quote]
Thanks Gayle!
I don’t understand why people are moaning then! It can only be
used at premier league grounds!
[/quote]
I'm not an expert but I think it is more a case that they have
set it up so they can only use it at Premier League grounds -
Swansea for example were obviously a Premier League club last
year and VAR was used in some of their FA Cup games last season
so presumably the infrastructure is there if they had the
appetite to use it.
As I said, they used it at two non-Premier League grounds in the
League Cup this season - Middlesborough in the quarter-final and
Burton in the semi-final. I believe they were in a truck outside
the stadium for the Burton game rather than being at Stockley
Park so presumably there are alternatives if necessary.
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