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       #Post#: 418--------------------------------------------------
       Re: BELOW SG
   DIR By: OwdReds
       Date: August 30, 2018, 9:42 am
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       The one good thing to come from that is Accrington haven't had
       him since then.
       #Post#: 572--------------------------------------------------
       Re: BELOW SG
   DIR By: yfc54
       Date: September 3, 2018, 5:11 pm
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       --- Quote from: robbieg link ---
       >
       > As a Sunderland fan [ and an extremely passionate one at that]
       two successive relegations have taken it out of me and left a
       permanent scar however the reasons why we are where we are is
       another story, and whilst I accept it will be seen  I am posting
       this on the strength of a
       > decent start to the season I have to say I have been impressed
       at the standard of refereeing below the SG1/2 we have had.
       > Messrs Brooks,Breakspear,Coggins,Backhouse and Busby have all
       been impressive and whilst Messrs Coggins and Breakspear have
       had big calls to make both in and not in our favour in general
       terms they all have looked as if they would not be out of place
       as SG refs in the future.
       > Perhaps others who are or have been referees themselves may
       disagree I can only comment on what I see.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'd generally agree with your post but fear you may have fallen
       foul of the old saying about not speaking too soon.Were you at
       our match against Oxford at the weekend? I really hope so
       because I'd love to hear your thoughts on the performance of Mr
       Mark Heywood. On a positive note I had a clear side on view of
       the incident which led to Max Power being sent off and despite
       the fact that a lot of our fans thought it was a harsh decision
       in my opinion a red card was the right one. Max was nowhere near
       the ball and it was a cynical challenge so he got what he
       deserved. However that is the only good thing I could possibly
       say after witnessing one of the most inept refereeing displays
       I've seen in many a year. His only consistency was his
       inconsistency and he really appeared to lose any control very
       early in the game. I think it speaks volumes when even the
       opposition manager admits that one of his own players should
       have been taking an early bath. I sincerely hope this was a one
       off for Mr Heywood.
       #Post#: 617--------------------------------------------------
       Re: BELOW SG
   DIR By: MichaelRef
       Date: September 4, 2018, 1:04 pm
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       You do for sure list some of the best officials,
       Busby/Brooks/Coggins are officials are very good and will
       progress higher. Breakspear is fine, not the best but fine, and
       Backhouse I haven't seen so won't form an opinion. Tom Nield has
       been the best official I have seen this season, on Saturday
       Pompey vs Argyle. Sarginson, unfortantly, hasn't made anymore
       friends in Plymouth.
       #Post#: 622--------------------------------------------------
       Re: BELOW SG
   DIR By: Acme Thunderer
       Date: September 4, 2018, 3:10 pm
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       --- Quote from: yfc54 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=robbieg link=topic=62.msg254#msg254
       date=1535392255]
       > As a Sunderland fan [ and an extremely passionate one at that]
       two successive relegations have taken it out of me and left a
       permanent scar however the reasons why we are where we are is
       another story, and whilst I accept it will be seen  I am posting
       this on the strength of a
       > decent start to the season I have to say I have been impressed
       at the standard of refereeing below the SG1/2 we have had.
       > Messrs Brooks,Breakspear,Coggins,Backhouse and Busby have all
       been impressive and whilst Messrs Coggins and Breakspear have
       had big calls to make both in and not in our favour in general
       terms they all have looked as if they would not be out of place
       as SG refs in the future.
       > Perhaps others who are or have been referees themselves may
       disagree I can only comment on what I see.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'd generally agree with your post but fear you may have fallen
       foul of the old saying about not speaking too soon.Were you at
       our match against Oxford at the weekend? I really hope so
       because I'd love to hear your thoughts on the performance of Mr
       Mark Heywood. On a positive note I had a clear side on view of
       the incident which led to Max Power being sent off and despite
       the fact that a lot of our fans thought it was a harsh decision
       in my opinion a red card was the right one. Max was nowhere near
       the ball and it was a cynical challenge so he got what he
       deserved. However that is the only good thing I could possibly
       say after witnessing one of the most inept refereeing displays
       I've seen in many a year. His only consistency was his
       inconsistency and he really appeared to lose any control very
       early in the game. I think it speaks volumes when even the
       opposition manager admits that one of his own players should
       have been taking an early bath. I sincerely hope this was a one
       off for Mr Heywood.
       [/quote]
       The red card against Max Power has been upheld, and having seen
       the incident on Look North tonight, I can understand why.
       Cynical is certainly a correct assessment. However, looking
       back, I recall red cards being overturned for similar cynical
       challenges although I can't recall players or refs involved. It
       is good imo that the authorities have chosen to back the ref in
       this instance.
       #Post#: 623--------------------------------------------------
       Re: BELOW SG
   DIR By: Readingfan
       Date: September 4, 2018, 3:16 pm
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       Regarding Max Power, I read that he had a three game league
       suspension but also wasn't allowed to play in an additional cup
       match which seemed a bit strange?
       #Post#: 626--------------------------------------------------
       Re: BELOW SG
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: September 4, 2018, 3:56 pm
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       Seemingly the FA don't view the Checkatrade trophy as a valid
       competition to serve suspensions.  So he is suspended for that
       game, but it doesn't count towards serving his three game ban.
       Seems totally bizarre to me, can only assume it is because of
       the involvement of U23 teams in that competition.
       #Post#: 630--------------------------------------------------
       Re: BELOW SG
   DIR By: guest4
       Date: September 4, 2018, 5:32 pm
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       --- Quote from: Readingfan link ---
       >
       > Regarding Max Power, I read that he had a three game league
       suspension but also wasn't allowed to play in an additional cup
       match which seemed a bit strange?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Possibly seen as a frivolous appeal?
       #Post#: 631--------------------------------------------------
       Re: BELOW SG
   DIR By: QuoCob
       Date: September 4, 2018, 6:08 pm
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       Suspended from all football until the ban has been completed.
       Just happens a non eligible cup match is within the ban period.
       #Post#: 633--------------------------------------------------
       Re: BELOW SG
   DIR By: Grahamexref
       Date: September 4, 2018, 6:52 pm
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       --- Quote from: Readingfan link ---
       >
       > Regarding Max Power, I read that he had a three game league
       suspension but also wasn't allowed to play in an additional cup
       match which seemed a bit strange?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I was under the impression that a fixed 3 match ban applied to
       the next 3 FIRST TEAM (club) fixtures (other than FIFA/UEFA
       matches) which could well include an exclusion from any domestic
       'cup fixtures' as well as league fixtures.
       #Post#: 696--------------------------------------------------
       Re: BELOW SG
   DIR By: robbieg
       Date: September 7, 2018, 2:24 pm
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       --- Quote from: yfc54 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=robbieg link=topic=62.msg254#msg254
       date=1535392255]
       > As a Sunderland fan [ and an extremely passionate one at that]
       two successive relegations have taken it out of me and left a
       permanent scar however the reasons why we are where we are is
       another story, and whilst I accept it will be seen  I am posting
       this on the strength of a
       > decent start to the season I have to say I have been impressed
       at the standard of refereeing below the SG1/2 we have had.
       > Messrs Brooks,Breakspear,Coggins,Backhouse and Busby have all
       been impressive and whilst Messrs Coggins and Breakspear have
       had big calls to make both in and not in our favour in general
       terms they all have looked as if they would not be out of place
       as SG refs in the future.
       > Perhaps others who are or have been referees themselves may
       disagree I can only comment on what I see.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'd generally agree with your post but fear you may have fallen
       foul of the old saying about not speaking too soon.Were you at
       our match against Oxford at the weekend? I really hope so
       because I'd love to hear your thoughts on the performance of Mr
       Mark Heywood. On a positive note I had a clear side on view of
       the incident which led to Max Power being sent off and despite
       the fact that a lot of our fans thought it was a harsh decision
       in my opinion a red card was the right one. Max was nowhere near
       the ball and it was a cynical challenge so he got what he
       deserved. However that is the only good thing I could possibly
       say after witnessing one of the most inept refereeing displays
       I've seen in many a year. His only consistency was his
       inconsistency and he really appeared to lose any control very
       early in the game. I think it speaks volumes when even the
       opposition manager admits that one of his own players should
       have been taking an early bath. I sincerely hope this was a one
       off for Mr Heywood.
       [/quote]
       I don't miss many games,but I did miss the Oxford game due to a
       family holiday planned in advance.
       From what I saw [ and speaking as a fan only] I had no
       complaints about Max Power's RC, but I just cannot get my head
       around why the extra game at the beginning was added.
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