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       #Post#: 80985--------------------------------------------------
       UEFA Elite Referees - Ranking?
   DIR By: magpie1892
       Date: July 5, 2024, 2:41 pm
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       Watching the Euros and some ref's i have heard/seen before on
       CL/EL games but wondering who are the current top 5 UEFA Elite
       referees
       I dont know them enough to rank so id probably group them
       Top Group of Elite
       Michael Oliver (ENG)
       Anthony Taylor (ENG)
       Jesus Gil Manzano (ESP)
       Clement Turpin (FRA)
       Francois Letexier (FRA)
       Felix Zwayer (GER)
       Daniel Siebert (GER)
       Daniele Orsato (ITA)
       Danny Makkelie (NED)
       Szymon Marciniak (POL)
       Artur Dias (POR)
       Ovidiu Hategan (ROU)
       Istvan Kovacs (ROU)
       Slavko Vincic (SVN)
       Lower group of UEFA Elite
       Irfan Peljto (BIH)
       Aleksei Kulbakov (BLR)
       Alejandro Hernandez Hernandez (ESP)
       Jose Sanchez Martinez (ESP)
       Benoît Bastien (FRA)
       Tobias Stieler (GER)
       Anastasios Sidiropoulos (GRE)
       Orel Grinfeeld (ISR)
       Marco Guida (ITA)
       Davide Massa (ITA)
       Serdar Gözübüyük (NED)
       Espen Eskas (NOR)
       Sergei Karasev (RUS)
       William Collum (SCO)
       Srdjan Jovanovic (SRB)
       Sandro Schärer (SUI)
       Ivan Kruzliak (SVK)
       Glenn Nyberg (SWE)
       Halil Meler (TUR)
       Anyone have more knowledge of UEFA referees and be prepared to
       rank some/all of them
       #Post#: 80990--------------------------------------------------
       Re: UEFA Elite Referees - Ranking?
   DIR By: DublinRef
       Date: July 5, 2024, 3:07 pm
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       I think it is a little more nuanced than that, but I am probably
       not best placed to comment. I will give it a go, in no order
       within each category, thinking about the CL -
       Top Elite Fully Trusted by Committee -
       Daniele Orsato (ITA)
       Danny Makkelie (NED)*
       Szymon Marciniak (POL)
       Anthony Taylor (ENG)
       Clement Turpin (FRA)
       Istvan Kovacs (ROU)
       Slavko Vincic (SVN)
       Second Level, Trusted for KO Games (could probably sub divide
       this group again to be honest) -
       Michael Oliver (ENG)
       Francois Letexier (FRA)
       Felix Zwayer (GER)
       Daniel Siebert (GER)
       Artur Dias (POR)
       Jesus Gil Manzano (ESP)
       Marco Guida (ITA)
       Davide Massa (ITA)
       Sandro Schärer (SUI)
       Ivan Kruzliak (SVK)
       Glenn Nyberg (SWE)
       Halil Meler (TUR)
       Serdar Gözübüyük (NED)
       Third Level, Group Stages Only/Developing Elites -
       Srdjan Jovanovic (SRB)
       Tobias Stieler (GER)
       Alejandro Hernandez Hernandez (ESP)
       Jose Sanchez Martinez (ESP)
       Irfan Peljto (BIH)
       Espen Eskas (NOR)
       Fourth Level, Elite in Name Only/Special Circumstances -
       Benoît Bastien (FRA)
       Sergei Karasev (RUS)
       Aleksei Kulbakov (BLR)
       Anastasios Sidiropoulos (GRE)
       Orel Grinfeeld (ISR)
       *Terrible treatment since PSG incident - new Cakir?
       #Post#: 80998--------------------------------------------------
       Re: UEFA Elite Referees - Ranking?
   DIR By: dave26
       Date: July 5, 2024, 3:44 pm
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       What’s happened to Karasev ? IIRC I don’t think he featured much
       if at all in either the CL , EL or Europa conference league last
       season
       .
       #Post#: 81001--------------------------------------------------
       Re: UEFA Elite Referees - Ranking?
   DIR By: DublinRef
       Date: July 5, 2024, 4:13 pm
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       --- Quote from: dave26 link ---
       >
       > What’s happened to Karasev ? IIRC I don’t think he featured
       much if at all in either the CL , EL or Europa conference league
       last season
       > .
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Russian ban, same with Kulbakov* from Belarus
       * Edit - I see he actually was appointed by UEFA this season.
       #Post#: 81054--------------------------------------------------
       Re: UEFA Elite Referees - Ranking?
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: July 6, 2024, 5:08 pm
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       --- Quote from: dave26 link ---
       >
       > What’s happened to Karasev ? IIRC I don’t think he featured
       much if at all in either the CL , EL or Europa conference league
       last season
       > .
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I don’t think we will ever see him again….
       #Post#: 81094--------------------------------------------------
       Re: UEFA Elite Referees - Ranking?
   DIR By: jad
       Date: July 8, 2024, 8:47 am
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       You might if you go to Uzbekistan.  He has had the occasional
       appointment to fixtures involving those countries with which
       Russia is still on speaking terms.
       #Post#: 81101--------------------------------------------------
       Re: UEFA Elite Referees - Ranking?
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: July 8, 2024, 11:50 am
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       My completely unbiased view...
       Top:
       István Kovács
       Next:
       Everyone else!
       #Post#: 81107--------------------------------------------------
       Re: UEFA Elite Referees - Ranking?
   DIR By: Hendo
       Date: July 8, 2024, 12:16 pm
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       --- Quote from: bmb link ---
       >
       > My completely unbiased view...
       >
       > Top:
       >
       > István Kovács
       >
       > Next:
       >
       > Everyone else!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       And why?
       😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍
       #Post#: 81124--------------------------------------------------
       Re: UEFA Elite Referees - Ranking?
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: July 9, 2024, 1:19 pm
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       --- Quote from: Hendo link ---
       >
       > [quote author=bmb link=topic=6113.msg81101#msg81101
       date=1720457424]
       > My completely unbiased view...
       >
       > Top:
       >
       > István Kovács
       >
       > Next:
       >
       > Everyone else!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       And why?
       😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍
       [/quote]
       Well he is the best, lovely person and an amazing referee 99.9%
       time!
       #Post#: 81133--------------------------------------------------
       Re: UEFA Elite Referees - Ranking?
   DIR By: Hertsref123
       Date: July 9, 2024, 3:18 pm
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       --- Quote from: bmb link ---
       >
       > My completely unbiased view...
       >
       > Top:
       >
       > István Kovács
       >
       > Next:
       >
       > Everyone else!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Poor old Danny Makkelie has been snubbed for the second time
       this tournament.
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