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A Taylor - Spain v Germany
By: Arbitre anglais Date: July 5, 2024, 2:11 pm
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Actually thought he was excellent in a very challenging game.
Unlike Kovacs, thought he was in full control - sharp, calm,
didn’t overreact, had respect of players. If anything, the one
missed caution at start (only actually clear on replay)
should’ve been an extra one! Absolutely none of the other cards
were wrong or preventable - simply blatant offences (dragging
people back on the break, etc). What is ref expected to do?? He
waved loads away for both teams, including endless, ridiculous
falling down, exaggerating contact, etc. Excellent non-penalty
decision.
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Re: A Taylor - Spain v Germany
By: Hendo Date: July 5, 2024, 2:32 pm
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Mediocre at best, not his first hour. Don’t think the watching
Rosetti would have been overly impressed. Should be on the
plane home tomorrow.
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Re: A Taylor - Spain v Germany
By: Adam Date: July 5, 2024, 2:47 pm
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[quote author=Hendo link=topic=6111.msg80984#msg80984
date=1720207976]
Mediocre at best, not his first hour. Don’t think the watching
Rosetti would have been overly impressed. Should be on the
plane home tomorrow.
[/quote]
Very harsh! A few iffy moments but nothing major wrong. I would
suggest that's him done but not because of his performance.
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Re: A Taylor - Spain v Germany
By: PhiltheRef Date: July 5, 2024, 2:55 pm
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"Authorities" were more than content according to a mutual
acquaintance in Germany.
Behaviour of both teams was considered very poor and Team 3
handled it excellently
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Re: A Taylor - Spain v Germany
By: Whistleblower Date: July 5, 2024, 3:05 pm
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I would be interested to learn their criteria for excellence.
Handball is such a confused area these days but a genuine
enquiry, why was it not a penalty for Germany ? I should say I
was supporting Spain but still wonder.
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Re: A Taylor - Spain v Germany
By: ARF Date: July 5, 2024, 3:23 pm
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[quote author=Vassago link=topic=6111.msg80980#msg80980
date=1720204931]
I make that 15 yellow cards and 1 red for Taylor. He made the
first big decision in this game wrong and it snowballed from
there. Chances of him even being 4O for the final are absolutely
zero.
[/quote]
Just as well you have absolutely no say in it then!
I thought the Kroos challenge on Pedri should have been a
caution, don't recall much wrong other than that. Penalty shout
definitely not handling IMO - not deliberate, and arm in a
natural position. All cards deserved as far as I can remember.
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Re: A Taylor - Spain v Germany
By: Whistleblower Date: July 5, 2024, 3:33 pm
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The Kroos challenge most certainly should have received a
caution, much lesser foul tackles certainly did, so a strange
lack of consistency there.
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A Taylor - Spain v Germany
By: Arbitre anglais Date: July 5, 2024, 3:34 pm
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[quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=6111.msg80989#msg80989
date=1720209954]
I would be interested to learn their criteria for excellence.
Handball is such a confused area these days but a genuine
enquiry, why was it not a penalty for Germany ? I should say I
was supporting Spain but still wonder.
[/quote]
Would have to watch again, but watching game live, and seeing
the replays at the time, I thought it was definitely not a
penalty. Firstly, it’s not deliberate. Then other criteria kick
in. Ball struck at speed, arm in totally normal position (by
side), normal movement for what defender was doing. Not sure
what defender can do to avoid it?
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Re: A Taylor - Spain v Germany
By: Affy_Moose Date: July 5, 2024, 4:21 pm
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[quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=6111.msg80989#msg80989
date=1720209954]
I would be interested to learn their criteria for excellence.
Handball is such a confused area these days but a genuine
enquiry, why was it not a penalty for Germany ? I should say I
was supporting Spain but still wonder.
[/quote]
Arm by the side, albeit slightly out. Very much in the lower
height of where we’d start to consider HB. Arm starting to draw
in as ball struck.
Different TV angles really show a difference between “definitely
not” to “looks like one”.
AT’s comms most likely said enough that no angle VAR could
provide would be suitable to change the decision.
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A Taylor - Spain v Germany
By: Arbitre anglais Date: July 5, 2024, 5:05 pm
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Good example of VAR rightly staying out of it (despite pressure
of home country in QF!). AT in the ideal position, clear view,
good angle and saw it live. Will have said what he saw - and VAR
had no reason to say that was wrong.
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