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Re: Who is staying at Euro 2024 and who is going?
DIR By: Wollongong Ref
Date: June 28, 2024, 12:25 am
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Scottish newspaper is saying Tello and crew are heading home.
Make of that what you will.
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Re: Who is staying at Euro 2024 and who is going?
DIR By: John Treleven
Date: June 28, 2024, 2:28 am
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Tello is 4th on SUI v ITA
#Post#: 80734--------------------------------------------------
Re: Who is staying at Euro 2024 and who is going?
DIR By: ryan80
Date: June 28, 2024, 10:31 am
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Apparently, Danny Makkelie, Jesus Gil Manzano, Sandro Schärer,
Marco Guida and Istvan Kovacs have all gone home
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Re: Who is staying at Euro 2024 and who is going?
DIR By: Pm2
Date: June 28, 2024, 10:37 am
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If the rumours are true that Makkelie has been sent home it
would be a disgrace.sending Kovacs home is harsh too but you can
understand it to avoid backlash after the Czechia turkey
game.Ceferin strikes again
#Post#: 80737--------------------------------------------------
Re: Who is staying at Euro 2024 and who is going?
DIR By: Arbitre anglais
Date: June 28, 2024, 11:18 am
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--- Quote from: ryan80 link ---
>
> Apparently, Danny Makkelie, Jesus Gil Manzano, Sandro Schärer,
Marco Guida and Istvan Kovacs have all gone home
>
--- End Quote ---
If true about Makkelie, it’s pretty outrageous. I’d go as far as
to say it’d make me thing about stepping back off the
international list asUefa would be taking the *** He
continuously gets given big, tough games that need a strong ref
(including semis) and then gets overlooked for finals - often
given to others who have had their smooth path orchestrated. He
should’ve well had one of the Uefa finals by now.
Can only be politics which are always a massive factor at home
and abroad. Kuipers now on committee - does that help/hinder?
Let’s hope it’s not true!
#Post#: 80738--------------------------------------------------
Re: Who is staying at Euro 2024 and who is going?
DIR By: rustyref
Date: June 28, 2024, 11:28 am
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--- Quote from: Arbitre anglais link ---
>
> [quote author=ryan80 link=topic=6091.msg80734#msg80734
date=1719588694]
> Apparently, Danny Makkelie, Jesus Gil Manzano, Sandro Schärer,
Marco Guida and Istvan Kovacs have all gone home
>
--- End Quote ---
If true about Makkelie, it’s pretty outrageous. I’d go as far as
to say it’d make me thing about stepping back off the
international list asUefa would be taking the *** He
continuously gets given big, tough games that need a strong ref
(including semis) and then gets overlooked for finals - often
given to others who have had their smooth path orchestrated. He
should’ve well had one of the Uefa finals by now.
Can only be politics which are always a massive factor at home
and abroad. Kuipers now on committee - does that help/hinder?
Let’s hope it’s not true!
[/quote]
He got a KMD wrong in his last game. If they are doing
appointments purely on performances, which they should be, it
might be that the low mark from that game but him in the bottom
x% and therefore meant he wasn't retained.
#Post#: 80739--------------------------------------------------
Re: Who is staying at Euro 2024 and who is going?
DIR By: rustyref
Date: June 28, 2024, 11:46 am
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Certainly appears to be true.
HTML https://www.ad.nl/ek-voetbal/domper-voor-danny-makkelie-uefa-stuurt-nederlandse-scheidsrechter-naar-huis~ac2f0113/?
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Re: Who is staying at Euro 2024 and who is going?
DIR By: dave26
Date: June 28, 2024, 1:24 pm
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Surprised Guida hasn’t been retained imo he’s been solid as for
Makkeklie if it’s performance based I accept his departure I
find it hard to believe that other than that it warrants a plane
ticket home given his experience and the tough matches he’s had
#Post#: 80742--------------------------------------------------
Re: Who is staying at Euro 2024 and who is going?
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: June 28, 2024, 2:04 pm
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--- Quote from: rustyref link ---
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> [quote author=Arbitre anglais
link=topic=6091.msg80737#msg80737 date=1719591484]
> [quote author=ryan80 link=topic=6091.msg80734#msg80734
date=1719588694]
> Apparently, Danny Makkelie, Jesus Gil Manzano, Sandro Schärer,
Marco Guida and Istvan Kovacs have all gone home
>
--- End Quote ---
If true about Makkelie, it’s pretty outrageous. I’d go as far as
to say it’d make me thing about stepping back off the
international list asUefa would be taking the *** He
continuously gets given big, tough games that need a strong ref
(including semis) and then gets overlooked for finals - often
given to others who have had their smooth path orchestrated. He
should’ve well had one of the Uefa finals by now.
Can only be politics which are always a massive factor at home
and abroad. Kuipers now on committee - does that help/hinder?
Let’s hope it’s not true!
[/quote]
He got a KMD wrong in his last game. If they are doing
appointments purely on performances, which they should be, it
might be that the low mark from that game but him in the bottom
x% and therefore meant he wasn't retained.
[/quote]
I agree it should be performance based although it still seems a
bit surprising as quite a few officials have needed VAR input
and as you mentioned Turpin and team needed it multiple times in
the opening match.
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Re: Who is staying at Euro 2024 and who is going?
DIR By: Arbitre anglais
Date: June 28, 2024, 2:13 pm
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Performance-based is fine but I’m never convinced that it is
being done fairly. Politics plays a massive role - at WC for
example when confederations all have to have their turn etc.
Also, if a ref gets given the top high-pressure games, there are
far more challenges than an easy, low-pressure game. Has always
been the same in England - 2/3 excellent performances in nice
gentle games with the right observers and away you go. 2/3 good
performances in tough, high-pressure games with the wrong
observers and you’re half way down the list.
My instinct is (with absolutely nothing to back it up), UEFA are
more than happy to use Makkelie for the tough, high-profile
games to get the job done, but he doesn’t (for some reason) have
the right people behind him unlike several others.
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