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       Re: C TURPIN - Germany v Scotland 
       By: Pm2 Date: June 15, 2024, 4:30 am
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       [quote author=Acme Thunderer link=topic=6057.msg80341#msg80341
       date=1718441742]
       Agree with the above on the Porteous incident. However, not so
       sure that I would fault Turpin for the earlier penalty incident
       which was overturned. I didn't see it as a foul in real time and
       full marks to CT for spotting it. Having seen the foul, he had
       to make a decision and (correct me if I'm wrong), if he had
       awarded a free kick on the edge of the area, presumably VAR
       would not have been able to intervene, even if it had been
       proved that the incident took place in the penalty area. In
       situations such as this, surely it was better for a penalty to
       be awarded and then overturned with the minimum of fuss and
       controversy? That's surely why VAR is in place, is it not?
       Germany's 5th goal, very tight on the offside, but again, VAR
       (semi-automated) quickly confirmed that it was not offside, and
       Turpin was certainly not in a position to disagree.
       One further positive, the ITV team regularly praised Turpin
       (rightly) and there appeared to be no hissy fits at half time or
       full time (although I didn't watch all of that time). Long may
       that continue!
       [/quote]im nearly sure that if u give free kick on edge of box
       but it’s actually inside var can intervene
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       Re: C TURPIN - Germany v Scotland 
       By: rustyref Date: June 15, 2024, 5:19 am
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       [quote author=Acme Thunderer link=topic=6057.msg80341#msg80341
       date=1718441742]
       Agree with the above on the Porteous incident. However, not so
       sure that I would fault Turpin for the earlier penalty incident
       which was overturned. I didn't see it as a foul in real time and
       full marks to CT for spotting it. Having seen the foul, he had
       to make a decision and (correct me if I'm wrong), if he had
       awarded a free kick on the edge of the area, presumably VAR
       would not have been able to intervene, even if it had been
       proved that the incident took place in the penalty area. In
       situations such as this, surely it was better for a penalty to
       be awarded and then overturned with the minimum of fuss and
       controversy? That's surely why VAR is in place, is it not?
       Germany's 5th goal, very tight on the offside, but again, VAR
       (semi-automated) quickly confirmed that it was not offside, and
       Turpin was certainly not in a position to disagree.
       One further positive, the ITV team regularly praised Turpin
       (rightly) and there appeared to be no hissy fits at half time or
       full time (although I didn't watch all of that time). Long may
       that continue!
       [/quote]
       Don't disagree, it was very difficult to see real time whether
       it was inside or outside, but it will still go down as an
       incorrect KMD.
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       Re: C TURPIN - Germany v Scotland 
       By: Readingfan Date: June 15, 2024, 5:30 am
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       [quote author=Acme Thunderer link=topic=6057.msg80341#msg80341
       date=1718441742]
       Agree with the above on the Porteous incident. However, not so
       sure that I would fault Turpin for the earlier penalty incident
       which was overturned. I didn't see it as a foul in real time and
       full marks to CT for spotting it. Having seen the foul, he had
       to make a decision and (correct me if I'm wrong), if he had
       awarded a free kick on the edge of the area, presumably VAR
       would not have been able to intervene, even if it had been
       proved that the incident took place in the penalty area. In
       situations such as this, surely it was better for a penalty to
       be awarded and then overturned with the minimum of fuss and
       controversy? That's surely why VAR is in place, is it not?
       Germany's 5th goal, very tight on the offside, but again, VAR
       (semi-automated) quickly confirmed that it was not offside, and
       Turpin was certainly not in a position to disagree.
       One further positive, the ITV team regularly praised Turpin
       (rightly) and there appeared to be no hissy fits at half time or
       full time (although I didn't watch all of that time). Long may
       that continue!
       [/quote]
       Decision can be changed by VAR either way - a penalty can be
       changed to free-kick or free-kick can be changed to penalty, as
       relevant. If referee gets it wrong they will be marked down and
       it will go down as on-field error.
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