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       Re: Clubs vote to scrap var(lead by wolves)
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: May 21, 2024, 11:09 am
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       --- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
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       > [quote author=Ivanhoe link=topic=6014.msg79949#msg79949
       date=1716204442]
       > The biggest issue with VAR is that for the fans that attend
       matches the raison d'etre is to celebrate your team's goals. The
       immediate elation and celebration is what fans pay their money
       for.
       > VAR has taken this away and I don't know many if any fans who
       want to keep it.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I was against VAR from the start and I’m even more against it
       now. There is also the fact that fans were not consulted about
       bringing it in, just like they haven’t been consulted on
       scrapping fa cup replays. No enjoyment of emotion watching PL
       games at the ground anymore. Also, it Makes a mockery that 20
       clubs are doing things completely different to the rest of the
       pyramid! Football survived 155 years with referees and
       assistants and no technology, so why we need VAR is beyond me
       This examples that rusty mentioned in his post I would expect
       someone in a team of 4 to have spotted particularly the handball
       by Soucek
       [/quote]
       If the fans had been consulted I suspect most would have said
       yes to technology though, certainly a very different outcome to
       if they had been consulted on the scrapping of FA Cup replays.
       The problem is how it was pitched, particularly in the media,
       was it coming in to completely eradicate game changing errors
       from games.  That was never going to be the case due to the
       level of subjectivity on most footballing decisions, hence the
       use of clear and obvious.  Not massively different from Brexit,
       people wouldn't have necessarily known what they were voting for
       😂
       #Post#: 79982--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Clubs vote to scrap var(lead by wolves)
   DIR By: Ashington46
       Date: May 21, 2024, 3:36 pm
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       --- Quote from: rustyref link ---
       >
       > [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=6014.msg79974#msg79974
       date=1716290419]
       > [quote author=Ivanhoe link=topic=6014.msg79949#msg79949
       date=1716204442]
       > The biggest issue with VAR is that for the fans that attend
       matches the raison d'etre is to celebrate your team's goals. The
       immediate elation and celebration is what fans pay their money
       for.
       > VAR has taken this away and I don't know many if any fans who
       want to keep it.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I was against VAR from the start and I’m even more against it
       now. There is also the fact that fans were not consulted about
       bringing it in, just like they haven’t been consulted on
       scrapping fa cup replays. No enjoyment of emotion watching PL
       games at the ground anymore. Also, it Makes a mockery that 20
       clubs are doing things completely different to the rest of the
       pyramid! Football survived 155 years with referees and
       assistants and no technology, so why we need VAR is beyond me
       This examples that rusty mentioned in his post I would expect
       someone in a team of 4 to have spotted particularly the handball
       by Soucek
       [/quote]
       If the fans had been consulted I suspect most would have said
       yes to technology though, certainly a very different outcome to
       if they had been consulted on the scrapping of FA Cup replays.
       The problem is how it was pitched, particularly in the media,
       was it coming in to completely eradicate game changing errors
       from games.  That was never going to be the case due to the
       level of subjectivity on most footballing decisions, hence the
       use of clear and obvious.  Not massively different from Brexit,
       people wouldn't have necessarily known what they were voting for
       😂
       [/quote]
       Just the FA Cup Final and the Championship Play- Off left for
       the authorities to produce the perfect ga,e of football.
       Never mind, there will always be the next 100 plus years to
       achieve your objective.
       Good luck from a disillusioned 77 year old who seems to be
       losing the plot of just what football is all about, until I
       watched England Under 17s beating France tonight ---well done to
       a fine set of lads who worked well as a team.
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