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#Post#: 79459--------------------------------------------------
Re: FL Play-Offs 2024
By: Acme Thunderer Date: May 6, 2024, 3:46 pm
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Crewe Alexandra FC (First Team) v Doncaster Rovers FC (First
Team)
Football League 2
Referee: Singh Gill, Sunny
Assistant Referee: Bickerdike, Johnathon
Assistant Referee: Williams, Scott
Fourth Official: Mather, Simon
Reserve Assistant Referee: Howick, Kevin
I was looking forward to seeing Sunny Singh Gill for the first
time, but to be honest, I was not impressed. He seemed to want
to let play continue as far as possible which I didn't have a
problem with. However, he was all over the place with what he
decided to blow for and what he decided to let go, and players
and fans seemed baffled with some of his decisions. I was
concerned too at his rather casual attitude to injuries, one
Crewe player seeming to be out cold without immediate assistance
being summoned, and a Doncaster player who looked as though he
had a serious injury following a tackle, but play was allowed to
continue. Sunny's style of refereeing - a bit languid - reminded
me of Andre Marriner, but that was where the similarities ended,
and I ended up feeling somewhat irritated by his performance.
OK, this was Crewe of League 2 rather than a PL club, but I
think the players and fans deserved better than what they got
from Sunny tonight. I am sure other regular contributors on
Crewe matters will want to have their say.
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Re: FL Play-Offs 2024
By: Ryanellis Date: May 6, 2024, 3:59 pm
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[quote author=Acme Thunderer link=topic=5968.msg79459#msg79459
date=1715028383]
Crewe Alexandra FC (First Team) v Doncaster Rovers FC (First
Team)
Football League 2
Referee: Singh Gill, Sunny
Assistant Referee: Bickerdike, Johnathon
Assistant Referee: Williams, Scott
Fourth Official: Mather, Simon
Reserve Assistant Referee: Howick, Kevin
I was looking forward to seeing Sunny Singh Gill for the first
time, but to be honest, I was not impressed. He seemed to want
to let play continue as far as possible which I didn't have a
problem with. However, he was all over the place with what he
decided to blow for and what he decided to let go, and players
and fans seemed baffled with some of his decisions. I was
concerned too at his rather casual attitude to injuries, one
Crewe player seeming to be out cold without immediate assistance
being summoned, and a Doncaster player who looked as though he
had a serious injury following a tackle, but play was allowed to
continue. Sunny's style of refereeing - a bit languid - reminded
me of Andre Marriner, but that was where the similarities ended,
and I ended up feeling somewhat irritated by his performance.
OK, this was Crewe of League 2 rather than a PL club, but I
think the players and fans deserved better than what they got
from Sunny tonight. I am sure other regular contributors on
Crewe matters will want to have their say.
[/quote]
I agree with you Acme. The way he walked out at the start of the
game with so much swag and I got the impression of “I’ll make it
all about me.” At times it was a guessing game to what was going
to be given, and some very soft fouls indeed were given. Delayed
signalling is something I picked up on. Blew the whistle, but
then never gave the direction of the free kick until 3/4 seconds
after.
#Post#: 79472--------------------------------------------------
Re: FL Play-Offs 2024
By: aaa Date: May 7, 2024, 4:06 am
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Sun 12th May 2024
12:00
Norwich City FC (First Team) v Leeds United AFC (First Team)
Football League Championship
Referee: Smith, Josh
Assistant Referee: Jones, Matthew
Assistant Referee: Lewis, Sam
Fourth Official: Martin, Stephen
Reserve Assistant Referee: Leach, Daniel
14:15
West Bromwich Albion FC (First Team) v Southampton FC (First
Team)
Football League Championship
Referee: Barrott, Sam
Assistant Referee: Hudson, Shaun
Assistant Referee: Antrobus, Blake
Fourth Official: Webb, David
Reserve Assistant Referee: Cooper, Ian
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Re: FL Play-Offs 2024
By: Whistleblower Date: May 7, 2024, 4:17 am
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[quote author=aaa link=topic=5968.msg79472#msg79472
date=1715072775]
Sun 12th May 2024
12:00
Norwich City FC (First Team) v Leeds United AFC (First Team)
Football League Championship
Referee: Smith, Josh
Assistant Referee: Jones, Matthew
Assistant Referee: Lewis, Sam
Fourth Official: Martin, Stephen
Reserve Assistant Referee: Leach, Daniel
14:15
West Bromwich Albion FC (First Team) v Southampton FC (First
Team)
Football League Championship
Referee: Barrott, Sam
Assistant Referee: Hudson, Shaun
Assistant Referee: Antrobus, Blake
Fourth Official: Webb, David
Reserve Assistant Referee: Cooper, Ian
[/quote]
No real surprises there. Should one presume they will go SG1 for
the second legs ?
#Post#: 79492--------------------------------------------------
Re: FL Play-Offs 2024
By: Beancounter Date: May 7, 2024, 11:56 am
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I think from memory that a game at York was called off a few
years ago very close to kick off for the same reason
#Post#: 79504--------------------------------------------------
Re: FL Play-Offs 2024
By: Game of Throw Ins Date: May 7, 2024, 3:43 pm
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As a neutral I thought Ross Joyce was good tonight in the
Crawley v MK Dons game. Was decent when I saw him in person this
season too.
#Post#: 79508--------------------------------------------------
Re: FL Play-Offs 2024
By: TheThingFromLewes Date: May 7, 2024, 4:45 pm
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[quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=5968.msg79474#msg79474
date=1715073445]
[quote author=aaa link=topic=5968.msg79472#msg79472
date=1715072775]
Sun 12th May 2024
12:00
Norwich City FC (First Team) v Leeds United AFC (First Team)
Football League Championship
Referee: Smith, Josh
Assistant Referee: Jones, Matthew
Assistant Referee: Lewis, Sam
Fourth Official: Martin, Stephen
Reserve Assistant Referee: Leach, Daniel
14:15
West Bromwich Albion FC (First Team) v Southampton FC (First
Team)
Football League Championship
Referee: Barrott, Sam
Assistant Referee: Hudson, Shaun
Assistant Referee: Antrobus, Blake
Fourth Official: Webb, David
Reserve Assistant Referee: Cooper, Ian
[/quote]
No real surprises there. Should one presume they will go SG1 for
the second legs ?
[/quote]
I would suspect they will.. although I think it’s very
reasonable to surmise that these two officials are effectively
SG1 in all but title.
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Re: FL Play-Offs 2024
By: Failed Ref Date: May 9, 2024, 2:41 am
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I watched Andrew Kitchen last night, a name I was not familiar
with. He was quite impressive for SG2. As posters have said
elsewhere, he likes to let the game flow. Unfortunately Oxford
tried to stop Posh's flow with petty fouling so Kitchen had to
do something. Warned captain, next offence was a YC and that
sorted that out. Possibly a little too late but referees cannot
win in those situations. Posh still had an hour to assert their
authority. Or put it another way, they scored 1 goal in 180
minutes.
Great spot for the non penalty, that is free kick just outside
the box and as the commentator said, he moved his position to
ensure he saw the foul and where it took place. Good spot for
the subsequent handball but I would expect him to spot that.
A couple of questionable decisions, Mr Ferguson described him as
awful, but I may be wrong on these but an impressive
performance. One for the future me thinks.
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Re: FL Play-Offs 2024
By: tef Date: May 9, 2024, 3:29 am
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[quote author=Failed Ref link=topic=5968.msg79545#msg79545
date=1715240468]
I watched Andrew Kitchen last night, a name I was not familiar
with. He was quite impressive for SG2. As posters have said
elsewhere, he likes to let the game flow. Unfortunately Oxford
tried to stop Posh's flow with petty fouling so Kitchen had to
do something. Warned captain, next offence was a YC and that
sorted that out. Possibly a little too late but referees cannot
win in those situations. Posh still had an hour to assert their
authority. Or put it another way, they scored 1 goal in 180
minutes.
Great spot for the non penalty, that is free kick just outside
the box and as the commentator said, he moved his position to
ensure he saw the foul and where it took place. Good spot for
the subsequent handball but I would expect him to spot that.
A couple of questionable decisions, Mr Ferguson described him as
awful, but I may be wrong on these but an impressive
performance. One for the future me thinks.
[/quote]
Agree with your assessment of Mr Kitchen. I wouldn't be
completely surprised if he got a dead-rubber final day game in
the Premier League.
I just knew Ferguson would come out with comments like that
after the game if they lost, clearly runs in the family.
Ferguson made himself look a right idiot coming out complaining
about the supposed handball penalty not given around minute 49,
but replays showed it struck the face and upper body of the
Oxford defender, not the arm. I hope he offers an apology to
Kitchen now he's had chance to see the replay and see it was a
good decision, but I won't hold my breath.
#Post#: 79552--------------------------------------------------
Re: FL Play-Offs 2024
By: Failed Ref Date: May 9, 2024, 3:44 am
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If that is the incident that Mr Ferguson is complaining about,
then he comes across as a fool. Said to deflect criticism
perhaps? I didn't like Oxford's approach, it reminded me of a
European cup game with regular fouling to break up play, time
wasting etc. but notwithstanding that Posh should have won given
their dominant possession (70%) and shots on goal (18 to 5). Mr
Kitchen looks like one of those pre packaged referees - fit,
slim, cropped hair etc. - and none the worse for that.
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