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You could not script it....
By: RCG Date: April 25, 2024, 1:55 pm
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In a week where referee loyalties have been questioned, bias
implied on any decision the RFU have raised 2 fingers and
trumped it all
Quins play Northampton at Twickenham this weekend: Referee Karl
Dickson who played for Quins and whose brother played for
Northampton
Yes the game could have gone to someone else but why? He's
professional, international and in form.
To me, no issue.
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Re: You could not script it....
By: RCG Date: April 25, 2024, 1:56 pm
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England: Gallagher Premiership- round 16
Bath Rugby v Saracens
Referee: Luke Pearce (148th Prem referee appointment)
ARs: Craig Maxwell-Keys & John Meredith
TMO: David Rose
Leicester Tigers v Bristol Bears
Referee: Matthew Carley (140th Prem referee appointment)
ARs: Jack Makepeace & Simon Harding
TMO: Rowan Kitt
Harlequins v Northampton Saints
Referee: Karl Dickson (85th Prem referee appointment)
ARs: Joe James & Jonathan Healy
TMO: Andrew Jackson
Newcastle Falcons v Sale Sharks
Referee: Anthony Woodthorpe (30th Prem referee appointment)
ARs: Hamish Smales & Greg Macdonald
TMO: Dean Richards
Gloucester Rugby v Exeter Chiefs
Referee: Christophe Ridley (75th Prem referee appointment)
ARs: Tom Foley & Peter Allan
TMO: Stuart Terheege
#Post#: 79019--------------------------------------------------
Re: You could not script it....
By: AFAref Date: April 27, 2024, 5:13 pm
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[quote author=RCG link=topic=5955.msg78912#msg78912
date=1714071317]
In a week where referee loyalties have been questioned, bias
implied on any decision the RFU have raised 2 fingers and
trumped it all
Quins play Northampton at Twickenham this weekend: Referee Karl
Dickson who played for Quins and whose brother played for
Northampton
Yes the game could have gone to someone else but why? He's
professional, international and in form.
To me, no issue.
[/quote]
In the words of Barry Davies "Interesting, very interesting"
Not aimed the post, but how it worked out!
#Post#: 79052--------------------------------------------------
Re: You could not script it....
By: RCG Date: April 28, 2024, 6:29 am
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Two HUGE decisions: one given on advice of TMO and one given on
field
Denial of try at end of first half was very harsh IMHO. I felt
the only movement on the ball was from the foot of the rucking
player, not Mitchell's hands
Danny Care should have received a 2YC. Push on player to get in
position, dive over ruck to slap ball down or playing the 9
before the ball was lifted. Either way, cynical. Dickson went
for his pocket instinctively and changed his mind (more as it
was Danny Care than it being a Quins player - DC gets away with
lots)
As good as the ARs were, I feel had Ridley/Foley etc been on the
line, stronger action would have been advocated, or had the TMO
been forceful it could and should have been a YC.
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Re: You could not script it....
By: Failed Ref Date: April 29, 2024, 5:37 am
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RCG - surprisingly head of professional game match officials
Paul Hull has issued a statement on the second yellow which
wasn't. In short it was the correct decision, it was not cynical
or worthy of a yellow card. The act of going to his back pocket
was because Dickson initially thought that a ruck had been
formed and Care had cynically played the 9 while off feet. After
gathering all the information, Dickson decided it was not
cynical. Another example of people jumping to the wrong
conclusion, that the referee was biased having played for Quins.
Complete Tosh. From what I have heard and read, Quins were on
the wrong side of Dickson for repeated offending and Saints were
unable to take advantage of the situation, having an off day.
While many believed that the second penalty against Care was for
diving on the ball, Hull has clarified that it was instead for a
push on Saints’ back James Ramm and provided TNT Sports with a
statement:
Addressing the push off the ball on Ramm from Care, Hull
explained with the following bullet points:
Ramm overran potential ruck, running an offload line. If a ruck
had been formed, he’d have entered from the side.
Dickson assessed the situation, lack of potential offload from
Augustus. Deemed a penalty kick was sufficient.
Hull added on the tackle on Mitchell:
No ruck formed, only a tackle. Care comes into the tackle only
space while onside.
Mitchell is in possession of the ball, Dickson confirms this
with the TMO.
Nothing illegal with this action/incident.
Finally, addressing Dickson initially going to his pocket, Hull
concluded:
Dickson initially thought that ruck had been formed and Care had
cynically played the 9 while off feet.
Had a doubt it was tackle only so removed his hand from his
pocket to fully assess the situation.
Once all the information gathered, he deemed PK only for Care
for the push on Ramm.
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