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       #Post#: 78554--------------------------------------------------
       Man city v Chelsea Michael Oliver
   DIR By: Joecphillips
       Date: April 20, 2024, 12:35 pm
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       Once again wondering what handball is especially after man utds
       last week free kick so ball has travelled 10 yards arm is moving
       towards the ball from an outstretched unnatural position so goal
       kick city
       #Post#: 78555--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Man city v Chelsea Michael Oliver
   DIR By: JMB1992
       Date: April 20, 2024, 12:41 pm
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       Shock, horror.  Can I believe my eyes?!  Chelsea DENIED a
       penalty, wow!
       Oliver and company quite correct to turn down both appeals
       there.  If they’re penalties we might as well give up now…
       #Post#: 78556--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Man city v Chelsea Michael Oliver
   DIR By: Adam
       Date: April 20, 2024, 12:51 pm
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       How Grealish wasn't at least cautioned for giving England a
       mouthful was unbelievable.
       A few meh decisions from Oliver. I believe that Grealishs hand
       moves in and closes the gap between his body and it where the
       balk would've moved through, therefore possibly a penalty. The
       fact a goal kick was given 100% confirms to me an OFR was needed
       as he didn't see it. The Jackson on Walker appeal I'd never a
       Penalty.
       #Post#: 78557--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Man city v Chelsea Michael Oliver
   DIR By: UmpireIan49
       Date: April 20, 2024, 12:52 pm
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       The handball shout? Not for me. To me it was accidental,
       Grealish jumped and the ball hit the arm rather than the other
       way round. However no corner was awarded, which baffles me. Is
       there a remit to say “Michael, no penalty but you should award a
       corner instead”?
       The other penalty shout, also no.
       And before anyone comments, I have no dog in the fight to quote
       a well known correspondent on here. Having been a cricket umpire
       for 37 years, objectivity is a virtue.
       #Post#: 78558--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Man city v Chelsea Michael Oliver
   DIR By: JMB1992
       Date: April 20, 2024, 12:57 pm
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       --- Quote from: JMB1992 link ---
       >
       > Shock, horror.  Can I believe my eyes?!  Chelsea DENIED a
       penalty, wow!
       >
       > Oliver and company quite correct to turn down both appeals
       there.  If they’re penalties we might as well give up now…
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       So I can see 2 dislikes to my post here, so you disagree and
       think they were penalties?  Wow…
       #Post#: 78559--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Man city v Chelsea Michael Oliver
   DIR By: Joecphillips
       Date: April 20, 2024, 1:03 pm
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       --- Quote from: UmpireIan49 link ---
       >
       > The handball shout? Not for me. To me it was accidental,
       Grealish jumped and the ball hit the arm rather than the other
       way round. However no corner was awarded, which baffles me. Is
       there a remit to say “Michael, no penalty but you should award a
       corner instead”?
       >
       > The other penalty shout, also no.
       >
       > And before anyone comments, I have no dog in the fight to
       quote a well known correspondent on here. Having been a cricket
       umpire for 37 years, objectivity is a virtue.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The ball travelled about 8 yards then grealish moves his arm in
       the way so it's not the ball hit his arm but the other way
       around
       #Post#: 78561--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Man city v Chelsea Michael Oliver
   DIR By: Joecphillips
       Date: April 20, 2024, 1:05 pm
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       --- Quote from: JMB1992 link ---
       >
       > Shock, horror.  Can I believe my eyes?!  Chelsea DENIED a
       penalty, wow!
       >
       > Oliver and company quite correct to turn down both appeals
       there.  If they’re penalties we might as well give up now…
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       If you move your arm into the path of the ball with time to
       avoid it then yes it should be a penalty
       #Post#: 78562--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Man city v Chelsea Michael Oliver
   DIR By: Adam
       Date: April 20, 2024, 1:06 pm
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       --- Quote from: JMB1992 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=JMB1992 link=topic=5931.msg78555#msg78555
       date=1713634870]
       > Shock, horror.  Can I believe my eyes?!  Chelsea DENIED a
       penalty, wow!
       >
       > Oliver and company quite correct to turn down both appeals
       there.  If they’re penalties we might as well give up now…
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       So I can see 2 dislikes to my post here, so you disagree and
       think they were penalties?  Wow…
       [/quote]
       The reason I disliked was because I find the 1st line to be
       extremely distasteful. I disagree with your opinion over the
       handball. Hope that clears that up! 👍🏼
       #Post#: 78563--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Man city v Chelsea Michael Oliver
   DIR By: JMB1992
       Date: April 20, 2024, 1:15 pm
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       --- Quote from: Adam link ---
       >
       > [quote author=JMB1992 link=topic=5931.msg78558#msg78558
       date=1713635847]
       > [quote author=JMB1992 link=topic=5931.msg78555#msg78555
       date=1713634870]
       > Shock, horror.  Can I believe my eyes?!  Chelsea DENIED a
       penalty, wow!
       >
       > Oliver and company quite correct to turn down both appeals
       there.  If they’re penalties we might as well give up now…
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       So I can see 2 dislikes to my post here, so you disagree and
       think they were penalties?  Wow…
       [/quote]
       The reason I disliked was because I find the 1st line to be
       extremely distasteful. I disagree with your opinion over the
       handball. Hope that clears that up! 👍🏼
       [/quote]
       It’s called sarcasm, if you think that’s distasteful goodness
       knows what you’d make of someone like Nish Kumar or Jimmy Carr!!
       Dear oh dear.
       🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
       #Post#: 78564--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Man city v Chelsea Michael Oliver
   DIR By: Marvin Grapevine
       Date: April 20, 2024, 1:52 pm
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       Watch the replay from directly behind Pochettino. Grealish
       deliberately brings his arm down to the ball because he knows it
       is past him and through the wall.
       It’s as clear a handball as you could see. Astonishing decision.
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