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Re: Ivan Kruzliak : Lille vs Aston Villa
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: April 19, 2024, 3:43 am
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I remember a few years ago there was a concern about the number
of penalty retakes VAR was ordering and a worry that it would
lead to keepers being sent off in a penalty shootout, although I
know a warning has now been added in for a first offence rather
than immediate yellow card. Was this the cause of the change?
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Re: Ivan Kruzliak : Lille vs Aston Villa
DIR By: Acme Thunderer
Date: April 19, 2024, 4:17 am
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--- Quote from: Readingfan link ---
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> I remember a few years ago there was a concern about the
number of penalty retakes VAR was ordering and a worry that it
would lead to keepers being sent off in a penalty shootout,
although I know a warning has now been added in for a first
offence rather than immediate yellow card. Was this the cause of
the change?
>
--- End Quote ---
This seems eminently reasonable if this is the case. What is not
OK in my view is that cautions are not carried over into the
penalty shootouts. The referee was probably right to warn
Martinez, but what would have happened if it had occurred again?
Another yellow but no red? Imagine the reaction. Surely the game
continues after the final whistle, as evidenced by yellow and
red cards issued for haranguing the officials in the centre
circle and tunnel. So what's the difference?
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Re: Ivan Kruzliak : Lille vs Aston Villa
DIR By: Ref Watcher
Date: April 19, 2024, 4:32 am
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I thought the fact that the highly-pundits paid were confused by
the yellow card during the shoot-out not resulting in a red was
embarrassing but to see so many on this site unaware of that Law
has astonished me. It is a question that is a staple of Laws of
the Game tests.
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Re: Ivan Kruzliak : Lille vs Aston Villa
DIR By: Acme Thunderer
Date: April 19, 2024, 5:32 am
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--- Quote from: Ref Watcher link ---
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> I thought the fact that the highly-pundits paid were confused
by the yellow card during the shoot-out not resulting in a red
was embarrassing but to see so many on this site unaware of that
Law has astonished me. It is a question that is a staple of
Laws of the Game tests.
>
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A staple part of the Laws of the game maybe, but I for one was
completely unaware of it. But maybe that has something to do
with the complexities of the Laws now compared with when I was
refereeing, plus my tired old brain not picking up on this
unusual situation.
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Re: Ivan Kruzliak : Lille vs Aston Villa
DIR By: Conkernut
Date: April 19, 2024, 9:59 am
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--- Quote from: Claretman link ---
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> Going one step further Martinez got a yellow card in the first
leg and then received another in normal play tonight, if the
yellow card received in the penalty shoot out counts against him
is he suspended for the first leg of the semi final under the 3
yellow card rule?
>
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It has been confirmed that he will be suspended for the 1st leg
of the SF
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Re: Ivan Kruzliak : Lille vs Aston Villa
DIR By: Leggy
Date: April 19, 2024, 10:48 am
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--- Quote from: Conkernut link ---
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> [quote author=Claretman link=topic=5923.msg78498#msg78498
date=1713479060]
> Going one step further Martinez got a yellow card in the first
leg and then received another in normal play tonight, if the
yellow card received in the penalty shoot out counts against him
is he suspended for the first leg of the semi final under the 3
yellow card rule?
>
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It has been confirmed that he will be suspended for the 1st leg
of the SF
[/quote]
I am sure Lille will be massively comforted by that.
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Re: Ivan Kruzliak : Lille vs Aston Villa
DIR By: Tonydent
Date: April 19, 2024, 3:20 pm
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--- Quote from: dave26 link ---
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> Apologies I wasn’t aware of that rule about cautions being
cancelled out in penalty shootout's
>
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FWIW, I agree with Rustyref, the referee on the night did not
allow himself any thinking time. It’s something I’ve really
learned to take into my game recently, and it really is a
valuable exercise.
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Re: Ivan Kruzliak : Lille vs Aston Villa
DIR By: Acme Thunderer
Date: April 20, 2024, 4:52 am
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--- Quote from: Tonydent link ---
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> [quote author=dave26 link=topic=5923.msg78488#msg78488
date=1713471195]
> Apologies I wasn’t aware of that rule about cautions being
cancelled out in penalty shootout's
>
--- End Quote ---
FWIW, I agree with Rustyref, the referee on the night did not
allow himself any thinking time. It’s something I’ve really
learned to take into my game recently, and it really is a
valuable exercise.
[/quote]
First line not needed. Dave was quite entitled to criticise the
referee's performance and was big enough to apologise for a lack
of awareness of a Law which I, and others on RTR it seems, were
also ignorant of. Leave it at that please.
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Re: Ivan Kruzliak : Lille vs Aston Villa
DIR By: Hertsref123
Date: April 20, 2024, 7:32 am
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Very much agreed acme thunderer, you can debate without
attacking or getting personal with other users.
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