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       #Post#: 76770--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sunny Singh Gill 
   DIR By: Adam
       Date: March 9, 2024, 5:06 pm
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       Based off of highlights, looked an excellent showing. Great
       advantage in the box before the Palace goal, most would've
       blown. Good YC call on Kebore. All in all looks good.
       Second half as well another brilliant advantage then goes back
       for the YC for Berry. He looks the business. Not next weekend as
       there's only 4 games, but after Internationals, he better get
       another game. That performance deserves the Barrott treatment.
       #Post#: 76771--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sunny Singh Gill 
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: March 9, 2024, 5:50 pm
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       --- Quote from: Adam link ---
       >
       > Based off of highlights, looked an excellent showing. Great
       advantage in the box before the Palace goal, most would've
       blown. Good YC call on Kebore. All in all looks good.
       >
       > Second half as well another brilliant advantage then goes back
       for the YC for Berry. He looks the business. Not next weekend as
       there's only 4 games, but after Internationals, he better get
       another game. That performance deserves the Barrott treatment.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       He absolutely was not playing advantage, I can assure you of
       that.  For starters it wasn't a foul, plus no referee plays
       advantage on a potential penalty.  He signalled advantage after
       the goal was scored and it was all for self congratulation, not
       a problem and most referees would have done the same, but there
       is absolutely no chance he would have given a penalty if Palace
       had missed.
       #Post#: 76773--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sunny Singh Gill 
   DIR By: PhiltheRef
       Date: March 9, 2024, 5:54 pm
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       As I have posted on a different thread I do have concerns about
       the seemingly accelerated promotions  in the medium to long
       term.
       Far too many current 2A and 2B Officials, I believe, aren't of
       the required standard. Not necessarily their fault, more people
       being pushed too early, arguably without adequate game
       experience
       #Post#: 76774--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sunny Singh Gill 
   DIR By: tef
       Date: March 9, 2024, 6:50 pm
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       --- Quote from: Adam link ---
       >
       > Based off of highlights, looked an excellent showing. Great
       advantage in the box before the Palace goal, most would've
       blown.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I wondered what on earth he was signalling after the goal and
       had to rewatch a few times to try and Identify what he was
       playing advantage for… I’m still none the wiser.
       Seems like a steady start. I suspect he will get another go
       before the season is finished if he gets the same treatment as
       Welch, Smith & Allison.
       #Post#: 76775--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sunny Singh Gill 
   DIR By: RefGod
       Date: March 9, 2024, 6:52 pm
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       I do not believe Sunny is ERDP so can understand to a degree
       those that question the rapid escalation. I worked with him at
       Step 1 not even 4 years ago. He is a quiet referee and it will
       be interesting to see how that is perceived by players in the
       PL.
       #Post#: 76783--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sunny Singh Gill 
   DIR By: RCG
       Date: March 10, 2024, 1:07 am
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       " I do not believe Sunny is ERDP so can understand to a degree
       those that question the rapid escalation"
       Does it not say in the BBC piece that participation in Dev Group
       has allowed him to go FT and concentrate on refereeing?
       #Post#: 76789--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sunny Singh Gill 
   DIR By: RefGod
       Date: March 10, 2024, 4:54 am
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       Which development group is Sunny then in ? He wasn’t named in
       the official PGMOL list for ERDG this season.
       #Post#: 76790--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sunny Singh Gill 
   DIR By: RCG
       Date: March 10, 2024, 6:42 am
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       He's got the appropriate coaches under him in that they've got
       psychologists, they've got everybody there who will be
       supporting him and have been supporting him over the last two
       years since he's been on the ERDP [Elite Referee Development
       Plan].
       Quote from BBC article
       #Post#: 76791--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sunny Singh Gill 
   DIR By: Readingfan
       Date: March 10, 2024, 6:44 am
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       --- Quote from: rustyref link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Adam link=topic=5771.msg76770#msg76770
       date=1710025601]
       > Based off of highlights, looked an excellent showing. Great
       advantage in the box before the Palace goal, most would've
       blown. Good YC call on Kebore. All in all looks good.
       >
       > Second half as well another brilliant advantage then goes back
       for the YC for Berry. He looks the business. Not next weekend as
       there's only 4 games, but after Internationals, he better get
       another game. That performance deserves the Barrott treatment.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       He absolutely was not playing advantage, I can assure you of
       that.  For starters it wasn't a foul, plus no referee plays
       advantage on a potential penalty.  He signalled advantage after
       the goal was scored and it was all for self congratulation, not
       a problem and most referees would have done the same, but there
       is absolutely no chance he would have given a penalty if Palace
       had missed.
       [/quote]
       If a referee plays advantage after a goal is scored and the
       PGMOL believe that a penalty would have been the incorrect
       decision then I would hope it would be marked down as a KMI
       error - after all if the goal had to be disallowed by VAR for
       some reason then theoretically they may need to revert to the
       penalty decision unless there is further VAR intervention.
       Mike Dean seemed unimpressed by Gill apparently signing
       autographs at half-time.
       #Post#: 76793--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sunny Singh Gill 
   DIR By: Seagull
       Date: March 10, 2024, 7:55 am
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       --- Quote from: Readingfan link ---
       >
       > [quote author=rustyref link=topic=5771.msg76771#msg76771
       date=1710028207]
       > [quote author=Adam link=topic=5771.msg76770#msg76770
       date=1710025601]
       > Based off of highlights, looked an excellent showing. Great
       advantage in the box before the Palace goal, most would've
       blown. Good YC call on Kebore. All in all looks good.
       >
       > Second half as well another brilliant advantage then goes back
       for the YC for Berry. He looks the business. Not next weekend as
       there's only 4 games, but after Internationals, he better get
       another game. That performance deserves the Barrott treatment.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       He absolutely was not playing advantage, I can assure you of
       that.  For starters it wasn't a foul, plus no referee plays
       advantage on a potential penalty.  He signalled advantage after
       the goal was scored and it was all for self congratulation, not
       a problem and most referees would have done the same, but there
       is absolutely no chance he would have given a penalty if Palace
       had missed.
       [/quote]
       If a referee plays advantage after a goal is scored and the
       PGMOL believe that a penalty would have been the incorrect
       decision then I would hope it would be marked down as a KMI
       error - after all if the goal had to be disallowed by VAR for
       some reason then theoretically they may need to revert to the
       penalty decision unless there is further VAR intervention.
       Mike Dean seemed unimpressed by Gill apparently signing
       autographs at half-time.
       [/quote]
       Maybe the safest and best option in such a situation is simply
       to award the goal and leave it at that.
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