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       Re: Chris kavanagh -Carabao cup final
   DIR By: stig231
       Date: February 26, 2024, 4:47 pm
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       > [quote author=stig231 link=topic=5744.msg76234#msg76234
       date=1708902470]
       > Anyone else notice that Klopp failed to shake Chris Kavanagh’s
       hand at the end but did shake the AR’s hands either side? Very
       petty.
       >
       > Klopp’s patronising, sarcastic, smile every single time a
       decision or VAR referral goes against him, however correct the
       decision is, is really beginning to grate too.
       >
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       That's not accurate. He shook hands with the AR1 first, then
       Kavanagh and then AR2.
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       Did he?
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       Re: Chris kavanagh -Carabao cup final
   DIR By: Whistleblower
       Date: February 27, 2024, 5:17 am
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       > [quote author=Irishref1985 link=topic=5744.msg76238#msg76238
       date=1708908074]
       > [quote author=stig231 link=topic=5744.msg76234#msg76234
       date=1708902470]
       > Anyone else notice that Klopp failed to shake Chris Kavanagh’s
       hand at the end but did shake the AR’s hands either side? Very
       petty.
       >
       > Klopp’s patronising, sarcastic, smile every single time a
       decision or VAR referral goes against him, however correct the
       decision is, is really beginning to grate too.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That's not accurate. He shook hands with the AR1 first, then
       Kavanagh and then AR2.
       [/quote]
       Did he?
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       Henry Winter writing a generally laudatory piece on Jurgen Klopp
       in today's times nevertheless writes this " On a negative note,
       Klopp should have shaken the hand of the referee, Chris
       Kavanagh. He should have risen above his understandable
       frustration at Kavanagh's two obvious mistakes  .....he could
       have shaken Kavanagh's hand, pointed out his errors and then
       highlighted them again in his post-match utterances "   Winter
       then concludes by writing that overall Klopp remains a huge
       force for good in the game.
       Refusing, quite publicly , to shake Kavanagh's hand whilst
       affording the same courtesy to the ARs is petty and not the act
       of a true sportsman. This action shows to me that Klopp is a
       great football manager but not a great gentleman.
       #Post#: 76318--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chris kavanagh -Carabao cup final
   DIR By: Sheila
       Date: February 27, 2024, 5:19 am
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       Yes Stig & Whistleblower. However,
       By not shaking his hand it's perfectly fine, if he doesn't think
       the job the man in black was good enough, which is perfectly
       fine. If you get rubbish service in a restaurant, you don't
       leave a tip do you.
       As for the yellow card count that was highlighted above. It goes
       to show, a selection of numbers does not give the whole picture.
       You would struggle to find anyone not a chelsea fan to agree
       that the team with the higher yellow card count was the dirtier
       team but hey, the man in black had a good game.
       👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
       #Post#: 76322--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chris kavanagh -Carabao cup final
   DIR By: JCFC
       Date: February 27, 2024, 6:09 am
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       --- Quote from: Sheila link ---
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       > Yes Stig & Whistleblower. However,
       >
       > By not shaking his hand it's perfectly fine, if he doesn't
       think the job the man in black was good enough, which is
       perfectly fine. If you get rubbish service in a restaurant, you
       don't leave a tip do you.
       >
       > As for the yellow card count that was highlighted above. It
       goes to show, a selection of numbers does not give the whole
       picture.
       >
       > You would struggle to find anyone not a chelsea fan to agree
       that the team with the higher yellow card count was the dirtier
       team but hey, the man in black had a great game.
       👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
       >
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       If you approach people pleasantly, you are less likely to
       receive the rubbish service. That's my tip to you.
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       Re: Chris kavanagh -Carabao cup final
   DIR By: stig231
       Date: February 27, 2024, 8:33 am
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       --- Quote from: Sheila link ---
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       > Yes Stig & Whistleblower. However,
       >
       > By not shaking his hand it's perfectly fine, if he doesn't
       think the job the man in black was good enough, which is
       perfectly fine. If you get rubbish service in a restaurant, you
       don't leave a tip do you.
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       True, but if you do use that restaurant frequently, as
       frequently as the top referees will have Liverpool matches, then
       you approach people in the right way, in a constructive manner
       to resolve any issues you may have had during that visit.
       I don't think anyone has said Chris Kavanagh had a "great" ,
       opinions seems to range from very poor to good, each to their
       own and all that.
       You do realise that you can get a yellow card for things other
       than something that would make you a "dirty" player/team. Are
       you seriously suggesting that say, 4 YCs for timewasting would
       make a team "dirtier" than a team who has 3 YCs for really bad
       tackles. Come on!
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       Re: Chris kavanagh -Carabao cup final
   DIR By: Whistleblower
       Date: February 27, 2024, 8:49 am
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       I certainly would not leave a tip at a restaurant where the
       service had been extremely poor but neither would I be
       gratuitously rude to the staff waiting at tables.
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