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       Andrew Madley: Manchester City v Chelsea
   DIR By: Adam
       Date: February 17, 2024, 11:29 am
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       Grandad is going to get wet in the rain, with preposterous Pep
       in his ear for 90 minutes, I couldn't think of anything worse!
       Orange over yellow on field is a bmb friendly start!
       #Post#: 75816--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andrew Madley: Manchester City v Chelsea
   DIR By: voice
       Date: February 17, 2024, 5:12 pm
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       Thought Andy Madley can be well pleased with his days work
       #Post#: 75834--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andrew Madley: Manchester City v Chelsea
   DIR By: Marvin Grapevine
       Date: February 18, 2024, 5:04 am
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       A good display, though would have liked to have seen him be much
       stronger on the continual City dissent.
       He got the big decisions correct (Walker clearly ran across
       Sterling, and should have been booked for his reaction
       afterwards).
       Rodri should also be charged for his comments after the game.
       #Post#: 75845--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andrew Madley: Manchester City v Chelsea
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: February 18, 2024, 6:33 am
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       --- Quote from: Marvin Grapevine link ---
       >
       > A good display, though would have liked to have seen him be
       much stronger on the continual City dissent.
       >
       > He got the big decisions correct (Walker clearly ran across
       Sterling, and should have been booked for his reaction
       afterwards).
       >
       > Rodri should also be charged for his comments after the game.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thought he was average. My biggest bugbear with him is he is
       very centric in his positioning and movement, and always leaves
       himself so much to do to get up with play. A few strange
       decisions, not least the added time for second half of 4 minutes
       despite several stoppages. As you say, he is another referee who
       has no ability to deal with continuous City dissent. Very weak
       in this area
       #Post#: 75846--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andrew Madley: Manchester City v Chelsea
   DIR By: RefGod
       Date: February 18, 2024, 7:13 am
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       --- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Marvin Grapevine
       link=topic=5716.msg75834#msg75834 date=1708254282]
       > A good display, though would have liked to have seen him be
       much stronger on the continual City dissent.
       >
       > He got the big decisions correct (Walker clearly ran across
       Sterling, and should have been booked for his reaction
       afterwards).
       >
       > Rodri should also be charged for his comments after the game.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thought he was average. My biggest bugbear with him is he is
       very centric in his positioning and movement, and always leaves
       himself so much to do to get up with play. A few strange
       decisions, not least the added time for second half of 4 minutes
       despite several stoppages. As you say, he is another referee who
       has ability to deal with continuous City dissent. Very weak in
       this area
       [/quote]
       He has no pace to chase down play exacerbating the issue. An
       issue I observed with him before his elevation to PL.
       #Post#: 75879--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andrew Madley: Manchester City v Chelsea
   DIR By: Boz
       Date: February 18, 2024, 11:15 am
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       From a City viewpoint thought Mr Madley had a reasonable game,
       though wouldn't argue with the above points about positioning
       and time-keeping. The latter mitigated by the YC for Chelsea
       keeper Petrovic for time-wasting around the hour mark, which did
       bring an end to the long-winded goal-kicks. I would like to see
       more SG1 officials to clamp down on this earlier.
       Mr Madley let a few things go, which didn't come back to bite
       him. It felt inconsistent in letting Caceido already on a YC off
       without booking for taking a man down on the edge of the
       visitors penalty area, yet booking Silva for his first foul, for
       what looked like nothing more than a coming together in the
       middle of the park.
       Haven't seen the VAR incidents again so can't evaluate. Don't
       know if something's been lost in translation, but Rodri's
       remarks on VAR seemed very strange; having a number of referrals
       doesn't guarantee any initial decision will be wrong.
       #Post#: 75914--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andrew Madley: Manchester City v Chelsea
   DIR By: Microscopist
       Date: February 19, 2024, 5:14 am
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       --- Quote from: Boz link ---
       >
       > From a City viewpoint thought Mr Madley had a reasonable game,
       though wouldn't argue with the above points about positioning
       and time-keeping. The latter mitigated by the YC for Chelsea
       keeper Petrovic for time-wasting around the hour mark, which did
       bring an end to the long-winded goal-kicks. I would like to see
       more SG1 officials to clamp down on this earlier.
       >
       > Mr Madley let a few things go, which didn't come back to bite
       him. It felt inconsistent in letting Caceido already on a YC off
       without booking for taking a man down on the edge of the
       visitors penalty area, yet booking Silva for his first foul, for
       what looked like nothing more than a coming together in the
       middle of the park.
       >
       > Haven't seen the VAR incidents again so can't evaluate. Don't
       know if something's been lost in translation, but Rodri's
       remarks on VAR seemed very strange; having a number of referrals
       doesn't guarantee any initial decision will be wrong.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The juxtaposition of the Silva yellow and the non-yellow for the
       foul on Rodri as he was carrying the ball into the area did not
       suggest a charitable explanation to myself.
       Rodri's comments on VAR as I have read are a bit strange.
       Comments by those in the know here and elsewhere have led me to
       believe that there is no correspondence between VAR and the
       on-field officials until any check is complete.  This in itself
       seems strange as how are VAR supposed to know just what the
       referee has or hasn't seen?  So perhaps I have misunderstood.
       However, apart from when goals are scored or penalties awarded
       we, mere watchers on, don't know when a VAR review takes place
       (although we do know the circumstances where it cannot take
       place.) However, and perhaps this is underlying Rodri's
       comments, it does, purely intuitively, seem to me that in recent
       weeks the threshold for "clear and obvious" has been raised even
       higher leading to even fewer referrals for referees to review
       their decision.
       All that considered it did seem to me that City's failure to win
       was more down to individual errors at both end and tactics that
       like JCFC in his recent report left me feeling "the deployment
       of the available resources produced a bewildered frown".  We
       have Foden, in the form of his life playing between the lines in
       mid-field, moved out to the right wing whilst then directing
       most of our attacking moves down the left wing; strange.
       #Post#: 75967--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Andrew Madley: Manchester City v Chelsea
   DIR By: Mr Castilli
       Date: February 19, 2024, 8:14 pm
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       Madley was very very weak on the constant dissent !!! The
       mandate is there this season to Card for it in the PL, a ref who
       never convinces me on dissent !!
       His brother Rob is by far a much better referee.
       Other than that a standard job ! But ok
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