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       #Post#: 75460--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Blue cards for football 
   DIR By: John Treleven
       Date: February 8, 2024, 4:03 pm
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       Blue cards already used here for 5 a side sin bins. Would be
       very useful for clarification of sin bin offences.
       #Post#: 75461--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Blue cards for football 
   DIR By: Lionator27
       Date: February 8, 2024, 4:43 pm
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       There are far more important law amendments that need to come in
       (CONCUSSION SUBS).
       IFAB need to remember that what makes football so widely
       accessible is its simplicity, yet every year we seem to make it
       more confusing to the masses.
       #Post#: 75463--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Blue cards for football 
   DIR By: Tim Wills
       Date: February 8, 2024, 8:19 pm
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       I used to sin bin players when I refereed fan's matches and it
       was extremely effective. I think it would work well at grass
       roots level because you can lay down a marker early on and for
       me, it made the game easier to referee.
       #Post#: 75465--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Blue cards for football 
   DIR By: PhiltheRef
       Date: February 9, 2024, 3:21 am
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       --- Quote from: Readingfan link ---
       >
       > I'm not convinced now's the right time to look at trialling
       something like this - I think it would be better to try and
       improve current laws and their implementation.
       >
       > Is it simply 10 minutes or 10 minutes of playing time? If the
       former then you can envisage a lot of negative football/tactics
       during the period.
       >
       > If the referee plays an advantage then there might be  a big
       disparity as prsumably no blue card required.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It's ten minutes of playing time. A source of
       confusion/irritation to players, coaches and spectators I must
       admit but it does discourage the reduced team from hoofing every
       clearance half way to Hawaii
       #Post#: 75466--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Blue cards for football 
   DIR By: RefObserver
       Date: February 9, 2024, 4:16 am
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       When sin-bins first came in at Supply League I felt they were
       used well and in the main there was an improvement on dissent
       towards officials.
       Now however, I feel that a large number of referees feel that
       given the sanction is more severe than a caution, they set a
       much higher tolerance level to dissent than previously.
       As such, I do not think it has improved matters, in fact I think
       it has made it worse.
       I do not think anything will be different at the top level.
       #Post#: 75476--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Blue cards for football 
   DIR By: stig231
       Date: February 10, 2024, 7:06 am
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       I assume a similar situation must have happened in leagues that
       have trialled or are already using sin bins…i just wondered what
       would happen if a goalkeeper received a blue card?
       #Post#: 75478--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Blue cards for football 
   DIR By: Seagull
       Date: February 10, 2024, 7:53 am
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       --- Quote from: stig231 link ---
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       > I assume a similar situation must have happened in leagues
       that have trialled or are already using sin bins…i just wondered
       what would happen if a goalkeeper received a blue card?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I imagine an outfield player would have to go in goal, then swap
       back after the GK is able to return. The team could use a sub
       and bring on a GK (assuming they have a sub GK on the bench) but
       that would mean one of them (the original GK or the sub GK)
       playing as an outfield player after the 10 minutes is up.
       #Post#: 75498--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Blue cards for football 
   DIR By: Carter
       Date: February 10, 2024, 3:28 pm
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       --- Quote from: RefObserver link ---
       >
       > When sin-bins first came in at Supply League I felt they were
       used well and in the main there was an improvement on dissent
       towards officials.
       >
       > Now however, I feel that a large number of referees feel that
       given the sanction is more severe than a caution, they set a
       much higher tolerance level to dissent than previously.
       > As such, I do not think it has improved matters, in fact I
       think it has made it worse.
       >
       > I do not think anything will be different at the top level.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       As someone who is involved in the running of a league, it is
       clear when they were 1st introduced they were used widely.
       However some years on they are now in comparison rarely used.
       I think the blue card is a good idea to inicate the sin bin but
       not for the 'cynical fouls' as proposed.
       #Post#: 75531--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Blue cards for football 
   DIR By: Joecphillips
       Date: February 11, 2024, 8:27 am
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       Not a fan of the idea, if referees are reluctant to use a yellow
       card what’s going to make them use a card with a higher sanction
       and that’s before we discuss the issue of the impact of
       inconsistency is bigger, the way timekeeping is doesn’t go well
       with it and it will just further slow things down
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