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       #Post#: 75253--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bournemouth v Forest - Rebecca Welch 
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: February 4, 2024, 1:32 pm
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       --- Quote from: Smithy link ---
       >
       > [quote author=charlieboy link=topic=5666.msg75220#msg75220
       date=1707069458]
       > [quote author=Smithy link=topic=5666.msg75218#msg75218
       date=1707069047]
       > Interesting reading the opinions here. I don’t have one as I
       didn’t see it so maybe she was poor maybe she wasn’t.
       > But if I may reiterate a previously made point which seems
       relevant again today as the conversation about her performance
       takes place, her performance is of secondary importance.
       > Number one remains that the English Premier League has a
       female referee. If she was good then that’s great, if she
       wasn’t…ah well!!!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I wish you wouldn’t reiterate it ! You have made that point ,we
       all know your opinion it does not need repeating . The only
       conclusion I can come to is you are doing so for a reaction ? As
       repetitive posting serves no other purpose .
       [/quote]
       It is a relevant topic relevant to the thread. An earlier poster
       stated the opinion that Welsh is an excellent referee who is
       where she is on merit. That opinion has also been stated before
       without attack. Please can we have some consistency here??
       [/quote]
       I'd respectfully suggest you might want to have a look at the
       likes for charlieboys post versus the complete lack of likes,
       and the replacement dislikes, for yours.  That might tell you
       that your view is very much in the minority.
       #Post#: 75255--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bournemouth v Forest - Rebecca Welch 
   DIR By: Smithy
       Date: February 4, 2024, 1:35 pm
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       --- Quote from: rustyref link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Smithy link=topic=5666.msg75239#msg75239
       date=1707073487]
       > [quote author=charlieboy link=topic=5666.msg75220#msg75220
       date=1707069458]
       > [quote author=Smithy link=topic=5666.msg75218#msg75218
       date=1707069047]
       > Interesting reading the opinions here. I don’t have one as I
       didn’t see it so maybe she was poor maybe she wasn’t.
       > But if I may reiterate a previously made point which seems
       relevant again today as the conversation about her performance
       takes place, her performance is of secondary importance.
       > Number one remains that the English Premier League has a
       female referee. If she was good then that’s great, if she
       wasn’t…ah well!!!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I wish you wouldn’t reiterate it ! You have made that point ,we
       all know your opinion it does not need repeating . The only
       conclusion I can come to is you are doing so for a reaction ? As
       repetitive posting serves no other purpose .
       [/quote]
       It is a relevant topic relevant to the thread. An earlier poster
       stated the opinion that Welsh is an excellent referee who is
       where she is on merit. That opinion has also been stated before
       without attack. Please can we have some consistency here??
       [/quote]
       I'd respectfully suggest you might want to have a look at the
       likes for charlieboys post versus the complete lack of likes,
       and the replacement dislikes, for yours.  That might tell you
       that your view is very much in the minority.
       [/quote]
       Absolutely.  That is not in dispute so not really sure what your
       point is.
       #Post#: 75257--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bournemouth v Forest - Rebecca Welch 
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: February 4, 2024, 1:43 pm
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       --- Quote from: Smithy link ---
       >
       > [quote author=rustyref link=topic=5666.msg75253#msg75253
       date=1707075136]
       > [quote author=Smithy link=topic=5666.msg75239#msg75239
       date=1707073487]
       > [quote author=charlieboy link=topic=5666.msg75220#msg75220
       date=1707069458]
       > [quote author=Smithy link=topic=5666.msg75218#msg75218
       date=1707069047]
       > Interesting reading the opinions here. I don’t have one as I
       didn’t see it so maybe she was poor maybe she wasn’t.
       > But if I may reiterate a previously made point which seems
       relevant again today as the conversation about her performance
       takes place, her performance is of secondary importance.
       > Number one remains that the English Premier League has a
       female referee. If she was good then that’s great, if she
       wasn’t…ah well!!!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I wish you wouldn’t reiterate it ! You have made that point ,we
       all know your opinion it does not need repeating . The only
       conclusion I can come to is you are doing so for a reaction ? As
       repetitive posting serves no other purpose .
       [/quote]
       It is a relevant topic relevant to the thread. An earlier poster
       stated the opinion that Welsh is an excellent referee who is
       where she is on merit. That opinion has also been stated before
       without attack. Please can we have some consistency here??
       [/quote]
       I'd respectfully suggest you might want to have a look at the
       likes for charlieboys post versus the complete lack of likes,
       and the replacement dislikes, for yours.  That might tell you
       that your view is very much in the minority.
       [/quote]
       Absolutely.  That is not in dispute so not really sure what your
       point is.
       [/quote]
       I would have thought that was blatantly obvious.  People don't
       agree with your point and certainly don't agree with you
       repeatedly making the same point, it is boring.
       #Post#: 75258--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bournemouth v Forest - Rebecca Welch 
   DIR By: Smithy
       Date: February 4, 2024, 1:46 pm
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       --- Quote from: rustyref link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Smithy link=topic=5666.msg75239#msg75239
       date=1707073487]
       > [quote author=charlieboy link=topic=5666.msg75220#msg75220
       date=1707069458]
       > [quote author=Smithy link=topic=5666.msg75218#msg75218
       date=1707069047]
       > Interesting reading the opinions here. I don’t have one as I
       didn’t see it so maybe she was poor maybe she wasn’t.
       > But if I may reiterate a previously made point which seems
       relevant again today as the conversation about her performance
       takes place, her performance is of secondary importance.
       > Number one remains that the English Premier League has a
       female referee. If she was good then that’s great, if she
       wasn’t…ah well!!!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I wish you wouldn’t reiterate it ! You have made that point ,we
       all know your opinion it does not need repeating . The only
       conclusion I can come to is you are doing so for a reaction ? As
       repetitive posting serves no other purpose .
       [/quote]
       It is a relevant topic relevant to the thread. An earlier poster
       stated the opinion that Welsh is an excellent referee who is
       where she is on merit. That opinion has also been stated before
       without attack. Please can we have some consistency here??
       [/quote]
       I'd respectfully suggest you might want to have a look at the
       likes for charlieboys post versus the complete lack of likes,
       and the replacement dislikes, for yours.
       [/quote]
       Is being agreed with mandatory??
       #Post#: 75261--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bournemouth v Forest - Rebecca Welch 
   DIR By: Claretman
       Date: February 4, 2024, 1:57 pm
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       --- Quote from: Smithy link ---
       >
       > Interesting reading the opinions here. I don’t have one as I
       didn’t see it so maybe she was poor maybe she wasn’t.
       > But if I may reiterate a previously made point which seems
       relevant again today as the conversation about her performance
       takes place, her performance is of secondary importance.
       > Number one remains that the English Premier League has a
       female referee. If she was good then that’s great, if she
       wasn’t…ah well!!!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Personally i thought your post about Ms Welch on a previous
       thread deserved a yellow card and as you have repeated it then
       the circle red card should come out after the second yellow.
       #Post#: 75262--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bournemouth v Forest - Rebecca Welch 
   DIR By: Adam
       Date: February 4, 2024, 1:58 pm
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       I feel like I'm going to regret asking this, but what point are
       you even trying to make at this stage that has remotely anything
       to do with the officiating of today's game?
       #Post#: 75274--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bournemouth v Forest - Rebecca Welch 
   DIR By: RefGod
       Date: February 4, 2024, 2:42 pm
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       --- Quote from: Smithy link ---
       >
       > Interesting reading the opinions here. I don’t have one as I
       didn’t see it so maybe she was poor maybe she wasn’t.
       > But if I may reiterate a previously made point which seems
       relevant again today as the conversation about her performance
       takes place, her performance is of secondary importance.
       > Number one remains that the English Premier League has a
       female referee. If she was good then that’s great, if she
       wasn’t…ah well!!!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       If Welch or another member of a minority group fails, the
       potential knock on effect to that demographic can be monumental.
       This being said, I would not have put Welch on a Premier League
       fixture this season.
       #Post#: 75277--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bournemouth v Forest - Rebecca Welch 
   DIR By: nemesis
       Date: February 4, 2024, 3:27 pm
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       --- Quote from: Adam link ---
       >
       >
       >
       > I feel like I'm going to regret asking this, but what point
       are you even trying to make at this stage that has remotely
       anything to do with the officiating of today's game?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Perhaps I can help?  The original poster on this thread included
       "Sadly Welsh(sic) has been pushed through this fast track system
       far too quickly".
       Given that opening gambit, it is not unreasonable to suggest
       reasons to support or deny that assertion. One would have to be
       naïve or blind not to see there is an element of
       disproportionate support in their diversification programme.
       Diversification is good. There is a shortage of referees at
       grassroots and opening up the demographic for would-be referees
       is immensely helpful. But let's not express indignation when
       it's referred to ..... and let's not pretend it's not happening.
       As has been wisely pointed out, if they get the implementation
       of this wrong it will set back the cause they are admirably
       striving for.
       #Post#: 75280--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bournemouth v Forest - Rebecca Welch 
   DIR By: PhiltheRef
       Date: February 4, 2024, 6:13 pm
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       Every official at every level has, I'm sure, had a testing game
       when we move up.
       The age, gender, eye colour or whatever is totally irrelevant.
       This is, I believe, a Refereeing forum?
       If (y)our comments are about only performance then no issue.
       As soon as mention of external issues is made then, I'm afraid,
       the validity of those comments is compromised beyond redemption
       #Post#: 75294--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bournemouth v Forest - Rebecca Welch 
   DIR By: RefGod
       Date: February 5, 2024, 5:25 am
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       MOTD2 hasn't shown anything controversial.
       The red card initially surprised me but there was no attempt for
       the ball whatsoever with studs planted into an ankle.
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