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       Re: L MASON - WBA v Forest
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: February 14, 2019, 6:51 am
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       I do have some sympathy with pulis as I think it was a foul and
       I do agree that Woolmer shouldn’t have been appointed to a game
       as important as this. As for farke he consistently whinges about
       refereeing decisions except when they go against his side!
       Looked like a clear pen for me!
       #Post#: 5010--------------------------------------------------
       Re: L MASON - WBA v Forest
   DIR By: Grahamexref
       Date: February 14, 2019, 6:53 am
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       --- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
       >
       > Well good news for mason is he has been demoted further into
       league 2 this weekend! 😉
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Whilst not a great admirer of Lee Mason, I have to say that his
       appointment to next Saturday's game had been published prior to
       Tuesday's match at The Hawthorns; hardly a 'demotion' just PGMOL
       fulfilling their obligation to provide SG1 officials to
       undertake matches in the Championship and EFL, as they do each
       matchday.
       #Post#: 5011--------------------------------------------------
       Re: L MASON - WBA v Forest
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: February 14, 2019, 9:55 am
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       --- Quote from: Grahamexref link ---
       >
       > [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=557.msg4982#msg4982
       date=1550064011]
       > Well good news for mason is he has been demoted further into
       league 2 this weekend! 😉
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Whilst not a great admirer of Lee Mason, I have to say that his
       appointment to next Saturday's game had been published prior to
       Tuesday's match at The Hawthorns; hardly a 'demotion' just PGMOL
       fulfilling their obligation to provide SG1 officials to
       undertake matches in the Championship and EFL, as they do each
       matchday.
       [/quote]
       I know graham it was meant as a off the cuff comment!
       😃👍
       #Post#: 5012--------------------------------------------------
       Re: L MASON - WBA v Forest
   DIR By: nemesis
       Date: February 14, 2019, 9:55 am
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       --- Quote from: Grahamexref link ---
       >
       > [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=557.msg4982#msg4982
       date=1550064011]
       > Well good news for mason is he has been demoted further into
       league 2 this weekend! 😉
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Whilst not a great admirer of Lee Mason, I have to say that his
       appointment to next Saturday's game had been published prior to
       Tuesday's match at The Hawthorns; hardly a 'demotion' just PGMOL
       fulfilling their obligation to provide SG1 officials to
       undertake matches in the Championship and EFL, as they do each
       matchday.
       [/quote]
       Okay, call it a happy coincidence.
       #Post#: 5013--------------------------------------------------
       Re: L MASON - WBA v Forest
   DIR By: RCG
       Date: February 14, 2019, 11:50 am
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       --- Quote from: Acme Thunderer link ---
       >
       > It would appear to have been two contentious nights in the
       Championship:
       >
       >
       > Geoff Eltringham, Preston v Norwich, Farke called the home
       side's 24th minute penalty a 'joke' after Buendia was adjudged
       to have tripped Fisher.
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Was a push as Preston player entered the box. "Joke" must have
       referred to his players challenge.
       More of an issue for me was how long the ref took to give
       Norwich's penalty which was a very poor challenge
       #Post#: 5014--------------------------------------------------
       Re: L MASON - WBA v Forest
   DIR By: Acme Thunderer
       Date: February 14, 2019, 11:57 am
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       --- Quote from: Acme Thunderer link ---
       >
       > It would appear to have been two contentious nights in the
       Championship:
       >
       > Tuesday - Lee Mason and Tony Harrington
       >
       > Last night - Andy Woolmer, Sheffield United v Boro - Tony
       Pulis claimed that Stearman fouled Fry when heading the winning
       goal for United. Pulis also pointed out that Andy had only
       refereed 8 Championship games so far this season and questioned
       why he was given this crucial match at the top of the
       Championship.
       > Geoff Eltringham, Preston v Norwich, Farke called the home
       side's 24th minute penalty a 'joke' after Buendia was adjudged
       to have tripped Fisher.
       >
       > All comments in The Times. I've not seen highlights yet so
       cannot comment further.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I've now had the opportunity to view the various incidents:
       Mason - wrong to be conned by Gayle and wrong not to award
       Forest a penalty when the forward was pulled back
       Harrington - still not sure but let's say he was in a better
       position to judge on the Bristol City penalty than I was
       watching it on Quest
       Woolmer - the forward Stearman who scored the winner for
       Sheffield United was all arms and legs over the defender Fry
       (think Crouch in his heyday), and whilst I've seen goals given
       in similar situations, I agree with Pulis that Andy was wrong in
       this instance to allow the goal
       Eltringham - Buendia shoved Fisher in the back rather than trip
       him. Looked a penalty to me if a tad soft.
       #Post#: 5015--------------------------------------------------
       Re: L MASON - WBA v Forest
   DIR By: reflector
       Date: February 14, 2019, 1:34 pm
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       --- Quote from: nemesis link ---
       >
       > [quote author=reflector link=topic=557.msg4998#msg4998
       date=1550101786]
       > [quote author=TheThingFromLewes link=topic=557.msg4960#msg4960
       date=1550008387]
       > We continue to mention about the dross in SG2, however the
       dross from SG1 that comes into the championship doesn’t help
       matters.
       >
       > Mason has been dreadful again tonight, how on earth Lolley
       didn’t get a foul after being hauled over by Barry, and even
       worse was the dive by Gayle which Mason gave as a penalty. He
       has most certainly guessed that decision as his positioning was
       terrible.
       >
       > Then Lolley again had his shirt pulled in the box by Gibbs
       which was a nailed on penalty not awarded.
       >
       > Absolute trash.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Gayle has been charged by the FA for 'successful deception of a
       match official' which will probably lead to a two match ban.
       That will be no consolation to Forest who were deprived of two
       points by Gayle's cheating and of course Mason's failure to spot
       and deal with it, nor indeed to other clubs seeking promotion at
       the end of the season who may be disadvantaged by WBA's extra
       two points gained by the deception.  Perhaps a points deduction
       might be more appropriate.
       [/quote]
       Thought it was a draw but I get the general point.
       Retrospectively chalking off the goal would be good .......but,
       I guess, impractical.
       [/quote]
       Indeed, you are of course correct.  Forgive me for getting
       slightly carried away but as a Villa supporter (even if from the
       days when they had a decent team), the notion of local rivals
       getting away with something dodgy has always led me to
       exaggerate somewhat!
       #Post#: 5023--------------------------------------------------
       Re: L MASON - WBA v Forest
   DIR By: Acme Thunderer
       Date: February 15, 2019, 2:57 am
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       --- Quote from: reflector link ---
       >
       > [quote author=TheThingFromLewes link=topic=557.msg4960#msg4960
       date=1550008387]
       > We continue to mention about the dross in SG2, however the
       dross from SG1 that comes into the championship doesn’t help
       matters.
       >
       > Mason has been dreadful again tonight, how on earth Lolley
       didn’t get a foul after being hauled over by Barry, and even
       worse was the dive by Gayle which Mason gave as a penalty. He
       has most certainly guessed that decision as his positioning was
       terrible.
       >
       > Then Lolley again had his shirt pulled in the box by Gibbs
       which was a nailed on penalty not awarded.
       >
       > Absolute trash.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Gayle has been charged by the FA for 'successful deception of a
       match official' which will probably lead to a two match ban.
       That will be no consolation to Forest who were deprived of two
       points by Gayle's cheating and of course Mason's failure to spot
       and deal with it, nor indeed to other clubs seeking promotion at
       the end of the season who may be disadvantaged by WBA's extra
       two points gained by the deception.  Perhaps a points deduction
       might be more appropriate.
       [/quote]
       Gayle banned for two matches after accepting a charge for
       diving. In a statement, WBA said that Gayle was "attempting to
       avoid anticipated challenges" but had "regrettably concluded any
       appeal would be fruitless".
       #Post#: 5025--------------------------------------------------
       Re: L MASON - WBA v Forest
   DIR By: Ref Watcher
       Date: February 15, 2019, 3:18 am
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       --- Quote from: Acme Thunderer link ---
       >
       > [quote author=reflector link=topic=557.msg4998#msg4998
       date=1550101786]
       > [quote author=TheThingFromLewes link=topic=557.msg4960#msg4960
       date=1550008387]
       > We continue to mention about the dross in SG2, however the
       dross from SG1 that comes into the championship doesn’t help
       matters.
       >
       > Mason has been dreadful again tonight, how on earth Lolley
       didn’t get a foul after being hauled over by Barry, and even
       worse was the dive by Gayle which Mason gave as a penalty. He
       has most certainly guessed that decision as his positioning was
       terrible.
       >
       > Then Lolley again had his shirt pulled in the box by Gibbs
       which was a nailed on penalty not awarded.
       >
       > Absolute trash.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Gayle has been charged by the FA for 'successful deception of a
       match official' which will probably lead to a two match ban.
       That will be no consolation to Forest who were deprived of two
       points by Gayle's cheating and of course Mason's failure to spot
       and deal with it, nor indeed to other clubs seeking promotion at
       the end of the season who may be disadvantaged by WBA's extra
       two points gained by the deception.  Perhaps a points deduction
       might be more appropriate.
       [/quote]
       Gayle banned for two matches after accepting a charge for
       diving. In a statement, WBA said that Gayle was "attempting to
       avoid anticipated challenges" but had "regrettably concluded any
       appeal would be fruitless".
       [/quote]
       It's a pity that he didn't conclude that appealing for a penalty
       would be equally fruitless after the anticipated challenges
       didn't materialise.  He cheated and now he is, with the
       connivance of West Bromwich Albion, dissembling.
       #Post#: 5026--------------------------------------------------
       Re: L MASON - WBA v Forest
   DIR By: nemesis
       Date: February 15, 2019, 4:51 am
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       --- Quote from: Ref Watcher link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Acme Thunderer link=topic=557.msg5023#msg5023
       date=1550221025]
       > [quote author=reflector link=topic=557.msg4998#msg4998
       date=1550101786]
       > [quote author=TheThingFromLewes link=topic=557.msg4960#msg4960
       date=1550008387]
       > We continue to mention about the dross in SG2, however the
       dross from SG1 that comes into the championship doesn’t help
       matters.
       >
       > Mason has been dreadful again tonight, how on earth Lolley
       didn’t get a foul after being hauled over by Barry, and even
       worse was the dive by Gayle which Mason gave as a penalty. He
       has most certainly guessed that decision as his positioning was
       terrible.
       >
       > Then Lolley again had his shirt pulled in the box by Gibbs
       which was a nailed on penalty not awarded.
       >
       > Absolute trash.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Gayle has been charged by the FA for 'successful deception of a
       match official' which will probably lead to a two match ban.
       That will be no consolation to Forest who were deprived of two
       points by Gayle's cheating and of course Mason's failure to spot
       and deal with it, nor indeed to other clubs seeking promotion at
       the end of the season who may be disadvantaged by WBA's extra
       two points gained by the deception.  Perhaps a points deduction
       might be more appropriate.
       [/quote]
       Gayle banned for two matches after accepting a charge for
       diving. In a statement, WBA said that Gayle was "attempting to
       avoid anticipated challenges" but had "regrettably concluded any
       appeal would be fruitless".
       [/quote]
       It's a pity that he didn't conclude that appealing for a penalty
       would be equally fruitless after the anticipated challenges
       didn't materialise.  He cheated and now he is, with the
       connivance of West Bromwich Albion, dissembling.
       [/quote]
       ..... and what a wrong conclusion that would have been. Thanks
       to the staggering, but unsurprising, incompetence of Lee Mason.
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