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       #Post#: 73706--------------------------------------------------
       Sam Barrott - Spurs vs. Burnley
   DIR By: JMB1992
       Date: January 5, 2024, 2:12 pm
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       Interesting early call which highlights the appalling
       inconsistency in our officials, Burnley fans will know what I
       mean…. just a week ago, Burnley concede the softest of penalties
       for a foot tap at Villa in the dying stages.  Tonight, Udogie is
       kicked in a similar vein on his ankle, no penalty.
       Make it make sense…
       Edited to fix spelling in title, bmb
       #Post#: 73707--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sam Barrett - Spurs vs. Burnley
   DIR By: Smithy
       Date: January 5, 2024, 2:29 pm
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       Different day, different situation, different referee, different
       viewing position, different player positions, different
       interpretation….
       Hard to achieve 100% consistency on an opinion with so many
       variables.
       #Post#: 73709--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sam Barrett - Spurs vs. Burnley
   DIR By: Rhys147
       Date: January 5, 2024, 2:29 pm
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       And yet most people agreed that the burnley one last week wasn't
       a penalty. I haven't seen the incident you are referring to but
       if it's like the burnley one last week then it shouldn't have
       been a penalty.
       #Post#: 73710--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sam Barrett - Spurs vs. Burnley
   DIR By: Smithy
       Date: January 5, 2024, 2:38 pm
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       --- Quote from: JMB1992 link ---
       >
       > Interesting early call which highlights the appalling
       inconsistency in our officials, Burnley fans will know what I
       mean…. just a week ago, Burnley concede the softest of penalties
       for a foot tap at Villa in the dying stages.  Tonight, Udogie is
       kicked in a similar vein on his ankle, no penalty.
       >
       > Make it make sense…
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Appalling inconsistency!!
       It does seem that people can just come on here and say what they
       like. I bet if you did the washing up 50 times you’d do it
       differently 50 times. And that’s easier to do than making
       decisions in a fast pace game whilst trying to take into account
       every so called similar decision that has ever been made in the
       past.
       #Post#: 73711--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sam Barrett - Spurs vs. Burnley
   DIR By: JMB1992
       Date: January 5, 2024, 2:46 pm
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       --- Quote from: Smithy link ---
       >
       > [quote author=JMB1992 link=topic=5562.msg73706#msg73706
       date=1704485538]
       > Interesting early call which highlights the appalling
       inconsistency in our officials, Burnley fans will know what I
       mean…. just a week ago, Burnley concede the softest of penalties
       for a foot tap at Villa in the dying stages.  Tonight, Udogie is
       kicked in a similar vein on his ankle, no penalty.
       >
       > Make it make sense…
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Appalling inconsistency!!
       It does seem that people can just come on here and say what they
       like. I bet if you did the washing up 50 times you’d do it
       differently 50 times. And that’s easier to do than making
       decisions in a fast pace game whilst trying to take into account
       every so called similar decision that has ever been made in the
       past.
       [/quote]
       My point is, they have VAR and come to a completely different
       decision on the same incident.  It is virtually identical in
       fact as an incident.  Neither should be penalties, so why was
       last week’s one given??!!
       #Post#: 73712--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sam Barrett - Spurs vs. Burnley
   DIR By: Rhys147
       Date: January 5, 2024, 2:51 pm
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       --- Quote from: JMB1992 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Smithy link=topic=5562.msg73710#msg73710
       date=1704487115]
       > [quote author=JMB1992 link=topic=5562.msg73706#msg73706
       date=1704485538]
       > Interesting early call which highlights the appalling
       inconsistency in our officials, Burnley fans will know what I
       mean…. just a week ago, Burnley concede the softest of penalties
       for a foot tap at Villa in the dying stages.  Tonight, Udogie is
       kicked in a similar vein on his ankle, no penalty.
       >
       > Make it make sense…
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Appalling inconsistency!!
       It does seem that people can just come on here and say what they
       like. I bet if you did the washing up 50 times you’d do it
       differently 50 times. And that’s easier to do than making
       decisions in a fast pace game whilst trying to take into account
       every so called similar decision that has ever been made in the
       past.
       [/quote]
       My point is, they have VAR and come to a completely different
       decision on the same incident.  It is virtually identical in
       fact as an incident.  Neither should be penalties, so why was
       last week’s one given??!!
       [/quote]
       Completely agree with you on this one. VAR should have got
       involved last week and overturned the decision just like they
       should have done on monday at Liverpool.
       #Post#: 73713--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sam Barrett - Spurs vs. Burnley
   DIR By: Gorgeous George
       Date: January 5, 2024, 2:51 pm
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       The difference is one was given by the onfield referee
       (incorrectly in most people’s opinions) and one wasn’t.
       So by your strange consistency theory if a referee makes an
       error in judgement on the opening day of the season then our
       referees should continue to apply the same error every single
       game for the remainder of the season so as to appear consistent?
       I think learning from a mistake and applying the learning is a
       far better way forwards for our elite referees and it appears
       that’s what they have done. Simple
       #Post#: 73714--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sam Barrett - Spurs vs. Burnley
   DIR By: Smithy
       Date: January 5, 2024, 2:54 pm
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       --- Quote from: JMB1992 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Smithy link=topic=5562.msg73710#msg73710
       date=1704487115]
       > [quote author=JMB1992 link=topic=5562.msg73706#msg73706
       date=1704485538]
       > Interesting early call which highlights the appalling
       inconsistency in our officials, Burnley fans will know what I
       mean…. just a week ago, Burnley concede the softest of penalties
       for a foot tap at Villa in the dying stages.  Tonight, Udogie is
       kicked in a similar vein on his ankle, no penalty.
       >
       > Make it make sense…
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Appalling inconsistency!!
       It does seem that people can just come on here and say what they
       like. I bet if you did the washing up 50 times you’d do it
       differently 50 times. And that’s easier to do than making
       decisions in a fast pace game whilst trying to take into account
       every so called similar decision that has ever been made in the
       past.
       [/quote]
       My point is, they have VAR and come to a completely different
       decision on the same incident.  It is virtually identical in
       fact as an incident.  Neither should be penalties, so why was
       last week’s one given??!!
       [/quote]
       I don’t know. Why can a player take 2 penalties, score one and
       put one wide?
       Maybe because that’s just the way life works?
       Nothing is really ever the same is it? There are always
       differences.
       #Post#: 73715--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sam Barrett - Spurs vs. Burnley
   DIR By: Rhys147
       Date: January 5, 2024, 2:56 pm
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       --- Quote from: Gorgeous George link ---
       >
       > The difference is one was given by the onfield referee
       (incorrectly in most people’s opinions) and one wasn’t.
       >
       > So by your strange consistency theory if a referee makes an
       error in judgement on the opening day of the season then our
       referees should continue to apply the same error every single
       game for the remainder of the season so as to appear consistent?
       >
       > I think learning from a mistake and applying the learning is a
       far better way forwards for our elite referees and it appears
       that’s what they have done. Simple
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yeah that's the main reason VAR normally don't get involved is
       because the referee has given it on field.
       #Post#: 73717--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sam Barrett - Spurs vs. Burnley
   DIR By: Rhys147
       Date: January 5, 2024, 2:59 pm
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       --- Quote from: Smithy link ---
       >
       > [quote author=JMB1992 link=topic=5562.msg73711#msg73711
       date=1704487563]
       > [quote author=Smithy link=topic=5562.msg73710#msg73710
       date=1704487115]
       > [quote author=JMB1992 link=topic=5562.msg73706#msg73706
       date=1704485538]
       > Interesting early call which highlights the appalling
       inconsistency in our officials, Burnley fans will know what I
       mean…. just a week ago, Burnley concede the softest of penalties
       for a foot tap at Villa in the dying stages.  Tonight, Udogie is
       kicked in a similar vein on his ankle, no penalty.
       >
       > Make it make sense…
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Appalling inconsistency!!
       It does seem that people can just come on here and say what they
       like. I bet if you did the washing up 50 times you’d do it
       differently 50 times. And that’s easier to do than making
       decisions in a fast pace game whilst trying to take into account
       every so called similar decision that has ever been made in the
       past.
       [/quote]
       My point is, they have VAR and come to a completely different
       decision on the same incident.  It is virtually identical in
       fact as an incident.  Neither should be penalties, so why was
       last week’s one given??!!
       [/quote]
       I don’t know. Why can a player take 2 penalties, score one and
       put one wide?
       Maybe because that’s just the way life works?
       Nothing is really ever the same is it? There are always
       differences.
       [/quote]
       Not necessarily. Some things are the same for example a headbutt
       is a headbutt and a punch is a punch. Okay when it comes to
       things like contact then yeah there will always be differences
       as one referee will see it one way and one won't which is why
       people get frustrated with VAR as they'll get involved one week
       and won't the next for the same incident.
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