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       Re: Sat 30th DEC 2023 – Tue 2nd JAN 2024
       By: MCPridz Date: December 29, 2023, 2:53 pm
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       [quote author=aaa link=topic=5499.msg73163#msg73163
       date=1703857806]
       [quote author=MCPridz link=topic=5499.msg73136#msg73136
       date=1703810225]
       The last SG2 we had was Barrott a few weeks ago at Luton and he
       was decent hopefully Josh can be as good at the weekend although
       unfortunately I can’t watch due to work and he is better than
       England’s best who we had tonight who was poor
       [/quote]
       Do you have any positive thing to say about any Referee?  Or
       rather, is there any Referee you would want to see appointed to
       your team for your 38 matches? If you are not a Referee
       yourself, I would strongly suggest you take up the whistle soon
       so we could have a faultless Referee to admire.
       It's 2024 soon.
       [/quote]
       I have posted positive things in the past about referees and I
       did say Oliver is Englands best just poor last night, I also did
       say Barrott was good for us a few weeks back, I do also wish in
       2024 that VAR actually get decisions correct as recently apart
       from the penalty we conceded last night as it was stonewall, the
       VAR decisions are going against us, barring the 2 ball out of
       play incidents I still maintain both were out, we should of had
       at least 1 penalty last night if not 2 chelsea got one for the
       exact same thing we didn’t the night before so I just want VAR
       to be more consistent and get decisions right
       #Post#: 73213--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 30th DEC 2023 – Tue 2nd JAN 2024
       By: Acme Thunderer Date: December 30, 2023, 7:58 am
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       [quote author=rustyref link=topic=5499.msg73178#msg73178
       date=1703865301]
       [quote author=aaa link=topic=5499.msg73163#msg73163
       date=1703857806]
       [quote author=MCPridz link=topic=5499.msg73136#msg73136
       date=1703810225]
       The last SG2 we had was Barrott a few weeks ago at Luton and he
       was decent hopefully Josh can be as good at the weekend although
       unfortunately I can’t watch due to work and he is better than
       England’s best who we had tonight who was poor
       [/quote]
       Do you have any positive thing to say about any Referee?  Or
       rather, is there any Referee you would want to see appointed to
       your team for your 38 matches? If you are not a Referee
       yourself, I would strongly suggest you take up the whistle soon
       so we could have a faultless Referee to admire.
       It's 2024 soon.
       [/quote]
       Said it before, but the vast majority of fans are incapable of
       sensible and subjective thoughts and comments when it comes to
       the refereeing of their own team, especially not in the
       immediate hours following the game.  I include myself in that
       even as a referee of over 25 years, but that is why I will very
       rarely post on decisions in a game Wednesday are playing in
       (not that anyone would have seen it anyway 😂)
       Most neutrals will think that Michael Oliver was very good last
       night, yet Arsenal fans will slag him off because they perceive
       that decisions went against them.  They've been calling
       talkSPORT all day in their droves, some even claiming that they
       can prove the ball went out for the first goal which is clearly
       nonsense.
       [/quote]
       I agree with you (as usual) rustyref and, on hindsight, I was
       perhaps guilty of that when commenting adversely on Andrew
       Madley following the red card to Ayew in the Palace v Liverpool
       game. However, I also think that RTR can be a very useful tool
       for letting off steam in the aftermath of a game such as P v L
       and also a useful tool for counter-arguments to be put forward
       by fans who have no axe to grind on a particular incident or
       incidents. And, provided the comments are constructive and not
       questioning someone's integrity, I don't think that can do any
       harm.
       #Post#: 73248--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 30th DEC 2023 – Tue 2nd JAN 2024
       By: Claretman Date: December 30, 2023, 4:19 pm
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       Nick Hopton replaced Mark Scholes Aston Villa v Burnley.
       #Post#: 73250--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 30th DEC 2023 – Tue 2nd JAN 2024
       By: rustyref Date: December 30, 2023, 4:34 pm
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       [quote author=Acme Thunderer link=topic=5499.msg73213#msg73213
       date=1703944719]
       [quote author=rustyref link=topic=5499.msg73178#msg73178
       date=1703865301]
       [quote author=aaa link=topic=5499.msg73163#msg73163
       date=1703857806]
       [quote author=MCPridz link=topic=5499.msg73136#msg73136
       date=1703810225]
       The last SG2 we had was Barrott a few weeks ago at Luton and he
       was decent hopefully Josh can be as good at the weekend although
       unfortunately I can’t watch due to work and he is better than
       England’s best who we had tonight who was poor
       [/quote]
       Do you have any positive thing to say about any Referee?  Or
       rather, is there any Referee you would want to see appointed to
       your team for your 38 matches? If you are not a Referee
       yourself, I would strongly suggest you take up the whistle soon
       so we could have a faultless Referee to admire.
       It's 2024 soon.
       [/quote]
       Said it before, but the vast majority of fans are incapable of
       sensible and subjective thoughts and comments when it comes to
       the refereeing of their own team, especially not in the
       immediate hours following the game.  I include myself in that
       even as a referee of over 25 years, but that is why I will very
       rarely post on decisions in a game Wednesday are playing in
       (not that anyone would have seen it anyway 😂)
       Most neutrals will think that Michael Oliver was very good last
       night, yet Arsenal fans will slag him off because they perceive
       that decisions went against them.  They've been calling
       talkSPORT all day in their droves, some even claiming that they
       can prove the ball went out for the first goal which is clearly
       nonsense.
       [/quote]
       I agree with you (as usual) rustyref and, on hindsight, I was
       perhaps guilty of that when commenting adversely on Andrew
       Madley following the red card to Ayew in the Palace v Liverpool
       game. However, I also think that RTR can be a very useful tool
       for letting off steam in the aftermath of a game such as P v L
       and also a useful tool for counter-arguments to be put forward
       by fans who have no axe to grind on a particular incident or
       incidents. And, provided the comments are constructive and not
       questioning someone's integrity, I don't think that can do any
       harm.
       [/quote]
       Agree, but certain members only seem to come on when their own
       team has potentially been on the wrong end of a decision.  And
       blindly claim the referee was wrong even though all evidence
       very much says otherwise.
       #Post#: 73355--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 30th DEC 2023 – Tue 2nd JAN 2024
       By: referee12 Date: January 1, 2024, 5:12 am
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       Hopefully Sam allison and Rebecca welch will get prem
       appointments in the next set of prem fixtures
       #Post#: 73366--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 30th DEC 2023 – Tue 2nd JAN 2024
       By: Smithy Date: January 1, 2024, 8:17 am
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       As a counter argument I would really prefer not to see that
       happen. That’s not a personal comment towards either of them as
       individuals or referees but it’s clear and obvious to say that
       they are being used as PR pawns by PGMOL which sort of hampers
       the integrity of their appointments.
       Had they both have been allowed to progress naturally as opposed
       to on the hurry up then I doubt there would be any questions
       raised.
       #Post#: 73373--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 30th DEC 2023 – Tue 2nd JAN 2024
       By: TheThingFromLewes Date: January 1, 2024, 9:39 am
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       [quote author=aaa link=topic=5499.msg72674#msg72674
       date=1702980665]
       SG1 in the FL
       Fri 29th Dec 2023
       Rotherham United FC (First Team) v Sunderland AFC (First Team)
       Football League Championship
       Referee: Harrington, Tony
       Assistant Referee: West, Richard
       Assistant Referee: Perry, Marc
       Fourth Official: Nield, Tom
       West Bromwich Albion FC (First Team) v Leeds United AFC (First
       Team)        Live on Sky Sports
       Football League Championship
       Referee: Scott, Graham
       Assistant Referee: Davies, Neil
       Assistant Referee: [s]Massey-Ellis, Sian[/s] Beswick, Gary
       Fourth Official: Stockbridge, Sebastian
       Mon 1st Jan 2024
       Blackburn Rovers FC (First Team) v Rotherham United FC (First
       Team)
       Football League Championship
       Referee: Gillett, Jarred
       Assistant Referee: Cann, Darren
       Assistant Referee: Robathan, Daniel
       Fourth Official: Martin, Stephen
       Leicester City FC (First Team) v Huddersfield Town FC (First
       Team)
       Football League Championship
       Referee: Allison, Sam
       Assistant Referee: Dwyer, Mark
       Assistant Referee: Pottage, Mark
       Fourth Official: [s]Ward, Gavin[/s] Harrington, Tony
       Norwich City FC (First Team) v Southampton FC (First Team)
       Football League Championship
       Referee: England, Darren
       Assistant Referee: Burt, Stuart
       Assistant Referee: Cook, Dan
       Fourth Official: Busby, John
       Sheffield Wednesday FC (First Team) v Hull City (First
       Team)
       Football League Championship
       Referee: [s]Smith, Josh[/s] Bond, Darren
       Assistant Referee: Jones, Matthew
       Assistant Referee: Hunt, Jonathan
       Fourth Official: Welch, Rebecca
       Stoke City FC (First Team) v Ipswich Town F.C. (First Team)
       Football League Championship
       Referee: Bell, James
       Assistant Referee: Cooper, Ian
       Assistant Referee: Wilson, James
       Fourth Official: [s]Simpson, Jeremy[/s] Bramall, Thomas
       [/quote]
       Bramall on for Bell at Stoke this afternoon.
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