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       Re: Sat 30th DEC 2023 – Tue 2nd JAN 2024
   DIR By: MCPridz
       Date: December 29, 2023, 2:53 pm
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       --- Quote from: aaa link ---
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       > [quote author=MCPridz link=topic=5499.msg73136#msg73136
       date=1703810225]
       > The last SG2 we had was Barrott a few weeks ago at Luton and
       he was decent hopefully Josh can be as good at the weekend
       although unfortunately I can’t watch due to work and he is
       better than England’s best who we had tonight who was poor
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Do you have any positive thing to say about any Referee?  Or
       rather, is there any Referee you would want to see appointed to
       your team for your 38 matches? If you are not a Referee
       yourself, I would strongly suggest you take up the whistle soon
       so we could have a faultless Referee to admire.
       It's 2024 soon.
       [/quote]
       I have posted positive things in the past about referees and I
       did say Oliver is Englands best just poor last night, I also did
       say Barrott was good for us a few weeks back, I do also wish in
       2024 that VAR actually get decisions correct as recently apart
       from the penalty we conceded last night as it was stonewall, the
       VAR decisions are going against us, barring the 2 ball out of
       play incidents I still maintain both were out, we should of had
       at least 1 penalty last night if not 2 chelsea got one for the
       exact same thing we didn’t the night before so I just want VAR
       to be more consistent and get decisions right
       #Post#: 73213--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 30th DEC 2023 – Tue 2nd JAN 2024
   DIR By: Acme Thunderer
       Date: December 30, 2023, 7:58 am
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       --- Quote from: rustyref link ---
       >
       > [quote author=aaa link=topic=5499.msg73163#msg73163
       date=1703857806]
       > [quote author=MCPridz link=topic=5499.msg73136#msg73136
       date=1703810225]
       > The last SG2 we had was Barrott a few weeks ago at Luton and
       he was decent hopefully Josh can be as good at the weekend
       although unfortunately I can’t watch due to work and he is
       better than England’s best who we had tonight who was poor
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Do you have any positive thing to say about any Referee?  Or
       rather, is there any Referee you would want to see appointed to
       your team for your 38 matches? If you are not a Referee
       yourself, I would strongly suggest you take up the whistle soon
       so we could have a faultless Referee to admire.
       It's 2024 soon.
       [/quote]
       Said it before, but the vast majority of fans are incapable of
       sensible and subjective thoughts and comments when it comes to
       the refereeing of their own team, especially not in the
       immediate hours following the game.  I include myself in that
       even as a referee of over 25 years, but that is why I will very
       rarely post on decisions in a game Wednesday are playing in
       (not that anyone would have seen it anyway 😂)
       Most neutrals will think that Michael Oliver was very good last
       night, yet Arsenal fans will slag him off because they perceive
       that decisions went against them.  They've been calling
       talkSPORT all day in their droves, some even claiming that they
       can prove the ball went out for the first goal which is clearly
       nonsense.
       [/quote]
       I agree with you (as usual) rustyref and, on hindsight, I was
       perhaps guilty of that when commenting adversely on Andrew
       Madley following the red card to Ayew in the Palace v Liverpool
       game. However, I also think that RTR can be a very useful tool
       for letting off steam in the aftermath of a game such as P v L
       and also a useful tool for counter-arguments to be put forward
       by fans who have no axe to grind on a particular incident or
       incidents. And, provided the comments are constructive and not
       questioning someone's integrity, I don't think that can do any
       harm.
       #Post#: 73248--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 30th DEC 2023 – Tue 2nd JAN 2024
   DIR By: Claretman
       Date: December 30, 2023, 4:19 pm
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       Nick Hopton replaced Mark Scholes Aston Villa v Burnley.
       #Post#: 73250--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 30th DEC 2023 – Tue 2nd JAN 2024
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: December 30, 2023, 4:34 pm
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       --- Quote from: Acme Thunderer link ---
       >
       > [quote author=rustyref link=topic=5499.msg73178#msg73178
       date=1703865301]
       > [quote author=aaa link=topic=5499.msg73163#msg73163
       date=1703857806]
       > [quote author=MCPridz link=topic=5499.msg73136#msg73136
       date=1703810225]
       > The last SG2 we had was Barrott a few weeks ago at Luton and
       he was decent hopefully Josh can be as good at the weekend
       although unfortunately I can’t watch due to work and he is
       better than England’s best who we had tonight who was poor
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Do you have any positive thing to say about any Referee?  Or
       rather, is there any Referee you would want to see appointed to
       your team for your 38 matches? If you are not a Referee
       yourself, I would strongly suggest you take up the whistle soon
       so we could have a faultless Referee to admire.
       It's 2024 soon.
       [/quote]
       Said it before, but the vast majority of fans are incapable of
       sensible and subjective thoughts and comments when it comes to
       the refereeing of their own team, especially not in the
       immediate hours following the game.  I include myself in that
       even as a referee of over 25 years, but that is why I will very
       rarely post on decisions in a game Wednesday are playing in
       (not that anyone would have seen it anyway 😂)
       Most neutrals will think that Michael Oliver was very good last
       night, yet Arsenal fans will slag him off because they perceive
       that decisions went against them.  They've been calling
       talkSPORT all day in their droves, some even claiming that they
       can prove the ball went out for the first goal which is clearly
       nonsense.
       [/quote]
       I agree with you (as usual) rustyref and, on hindsight, I was
       perhaps guilty of that when commenting adversely on Andrew
       Madley following the red card to Ayew in the Palace v Liverpool
       game. However, I also think that RTR can be a very useful tool
       for letting off steam in the aftermath of a game such as P v L
       and also a useful tool for counter-arguments to be put forward
       by fans who have no axe to grind on a particular incident or
       incidents. And, provided the comments are constructive and not
       questioning someone's integrity, I don't think that can do any
       harm.
       [/quote]
       Agree, but certain members only seem to come on when their own
       team has potentially been on the wrong end of a decision.  And
       blindly claim the referee was wrong even though all evidence
       very much says otherwise.
       #Post#: 73355--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 30th DEC 2023 – Tue 2nd JAN 2024
   DIR By: referee12
       Date: January 1, 2024, 5:12 am
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       Hopefully Sam allison and Rebecca welch will get prem
       appointments in the next set of prem fixtures
       #Post#: 73366--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 30th DEC 2023 – Tue 2nd JAN 2024
   DIR By: Smithy
       Date: January 1, 2024, 8:17 am
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       As a counter argument I would really prefer not to see that
       happen. That’s not a personal comment towards either of them as
       individuals or referees but it’s clear and obvious to say that
       they are being used as PR pawns by PGMOL which sort of hampers
       the integrity of their appointments.
       Had they both have been allowed to progress naturally as opposed
       to on the hurry up then I doubt there would be any questions
       raised.
       #Post#: 73373--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 30th DEC 2023 – Tue 2nd JAN 2024
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: January 1, 2024, 9:39 am
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       --- Quote from: aaa link ---
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       > SG1 in the FL
       >
       > Fri 29th Dec 2023
       > Rotherham United FC (First Team) v Sunderland AFC (First Team)
       > Football League Championship
       > Referee: Harrington, Tony
       > Assistant Referee: West, Richard
       > Assistant Referee: Perry, Marc
       > Fourth Official: Nield, Tom
       >
       > West Bromwich Albion FC (First Team) v Leeds United AFC (First
       Team)        Live on Sky Sports
       > Football League Championship
       > Referee: Scott, Graham
       > Assistant Referee: Davies, Neil
       > Assistant Referee: Massey-Ellis, Sian Beswick, Gary
       > Fourth Official: Stockbridge, Sebastian
       >
       > Mon 1st Jan 2024
       > Blackburn Rovers FC (First Team) v Rotherham United FC (First
       Team)
       > Football League Championship
       > Referee: Gillett, Jarred
       > Assistant Referee: Cann, Darren
       > Assistant Referee: Robathan, Daniel
       > Fourth Official: Martin, Stephen
       >
       > Leicester City FC (First Team) v Huddersfield Town FC (First
       Team)
       > Football League Championship
       > Referee: Allison, Sam
       > Assistant Referee: Dwyer, Mark
       > Assistant Referee: Pottage, Mark
       > Fourth Official: Ward, Gavin Harrington, Tony
       >
       > Norwich City FC (First Team) v Southampton FC (First Team)
       > Football League Championship
       > Referee: England, Darren
       > Assistant Referee: Burt, Stuart
       > Assistant Referee: Cook, Dan
       > Fourth Official: Busby, John
       >
       > Sheffield Wednesday FC (First Team) v Hull City (First
       Team)
       > Football League Championship
       > Referee: Smith, Josh Bond, Darren
       > Assistant Referee: Jones, Matthew
       > Assistant Referee: Hunt, Jonathan
       > Fourth Official: Welch, Rebecca
       >
       > Stoke City FC (First Team) v Ipswich Town F.C. (First Team)
       > Football League Championship
       > Referee: Bell, James
       > Assistant Referee: Cooper, Ian
       > Assistant Referee: Wilson, James
       > Fourth Official: Simpson, Jeremy Bramall, Thomas
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Bramall on for Bell at Stoke this afternoon.
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