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       #Post#: 71899--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 9th & Sun 10th DEC 2023
   DIR By: Pm2
       Date: December 5, 2023, 7:29 am
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       Kavanagh with arsenal Chelsea,Liverpool city, united Chelsea and
       Newcastle spurs after 16gws is very good going.hopefully he
       stays injury free
       #Post#: 71902--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 9th & Sun 10th DEC 2023
   DIR By: Arbitre anglais
       Date: December 5, 2023, 7:50 am
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       --- Quote from: kthomas22 link ---
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       >
       > Still a bit of a shame England is getting nothing.
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Strongly disagree with refs being punished by being out for a
       significant length of time - what does it achieve? Yes, a week
       or two out of the limelight (more to ease pressure on the
       official), but an extended period away is actually
       counter-productive. Makes the eventual return such a big deal
       and less likely to go well, having not done a game at PL
       standard for so long. The mistake was clear and public; no doubt
       he was mortified which is the biggest punishment. He should have
       been eased in on a low-profile game ages ago and supported back
       quickly.
       Hackett always harps on about people ‘sitting on their hands’.
       Seems very facile and poor man management to me. Worse still,
       people like Hackett are always inconsistent/unfair with it. If
       Poll made a blunder, nothing would happen, but others would be
       hung out to dry. I want Webb to be brave enough to say - a
       serious mistake was made, the ref has learnt from it and been
       out for a couple of weeks, now we need to move on.
       #Post#: 71904--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 9th & Sun 10th DEC 2023
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: December 5, 2023, 8:06 am
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       Another meeting with Tierney for us. The last two times we had
       him he was disappointing.
       I’m sure Martin will be exemplary holding the numbers board.
       Robinson with another tv offering, and Barrott with a tricky
       clash.
       #Post#: 71905--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 9th & Sun 10th DEC 2023
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: December 5, 2023, 8:08 am
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       --- Quote from: Arbitre anglais link ---
       >
       > [quote author=kthomas22 link=topic=5441.msg71887#msg71887
       date=1701774187]
       >
       > Still a bit of a shame England is getting nothing.
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Strongly disagree with refs being punished by being out for a
       significant length of time - what does it achieve? Yes, a week
       or two out of the limelight (more to ease pressure on the
       official), but an extended period away is actually
       counter-productive. Makes the eventual return such a big deal
       and less likely to go well, having not done a game at PL
       standard for so long. The mistake was clear and public; no doubt
       he was mortified which is the biggest punishment. He should have
       been eased in on a low-profile game ages ago and supported back
       quickly.
       Hackett always harps on about people ‘sitting on their hands’.
       Seems very facile and poor man management to me. Worse still,
       people like Hackett are always inconsistent/unfair with it. If
       Poll made a blunder, nothing would happen, but others would be
       hung out to dry. I want Webb to be brave enough to say - a
       serious mistake was made, the ref has learnt from it and been
       out for a couple of weeks, now we need to move on.
       [/quote]
       Hackett didn’t really leave the PGMOL in a good place after his
       “tenure” ( said very loosely).
       We only had minimal FIFA officials following on and SG1 was in a
       mess with the lack of younger officials progressing.
       #Post#: 71908--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 9th & Sun 10th DEC 2023
   DIR By: GingerReferee
       Date: December 5, 2023, 9:21 am
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       SG1 in FL
       Saturday 9th December 2023
       Stoke City FC (First Team) v Sheffield Wednesday FC (First Team)
       Football League Championship
       Referee: Coote, David
       Assistant Referee: Wood, Timothy
       Assistant Referee: Scholes, Mark
       Fourth Official: Stroud, Keith
       Sunderland AFC (First Team) v West Bromwich Albion FC (First
       Team)     Live on Sky Sports
       Football League Championship
       Referee: Bond, Darren
       Assistant Referee: Beswick, Gary
       Assistant Referee: Eaton, Derek
       Fourth Official: Woods, Martin
       Tuesday 12th December 2023
       Watford FC (First Team) v Ipswich Town F.C. (First Team)
       Live on Sky Sports Arena
       Football League Championship
       Referee: Coote, David England, Darren
       Assistant Referee: Wood, Timothy
       Assistant Referee: Scholes, Mark
       Fourth Official: Donohue, Matthew
       Wednesday 13th December 2023
       Queens Park Rangers FC (First Team) v Plymouth Argyle FC (First
       Team)      Live on Sky Sports Red Button
       Football League Championship
       Referee: Harrington, Tony
       Assistant Referee: Nunn, Adam
       Assistant Referee: West, Richard
       Fourth Official: Allison, Sam
       #Post#: 71914--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 9th & Sun 10th DEC 2023
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: December 5, 2023, 10:39 am
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       --- Quote from: UmpireIan49 link ---
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       > Biggest game of Jarred Gillett’s Premier League career to date
       - top versus 4th. After a slow start, I feel the Australian is
       starting to get a good run of games and this will be a big test
       of his capabilities. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again -
       Gillett is a better referee on field than sitting in front of a
       TV monitor.
       >
       > Does surprise me Hooper is back in action after his
       unfortunate error the other day, though from the reaction of
       some, you think hell has frozen over. People lacking perspective
       and this media driven glorification of refereeing errors shows
       no sign of abating. However that’s a discussion for another
       time.
       >
       > Robinson continues his good season and again, Sam Barrott gets
       another chance. Both have settled in nicely to the top flight,
       and Barrott is a fine referee IMHO.
       >
       > Pleased also to see Chris Kavanagh getting a consistent run of
       matches after his injury problems.
       >
       > The good spread of appointments continues.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Hardly getting a good run in what will be his 6th pl game of the
       season…
       #Post#: 71922--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 9th & Sun 10th DEC 2023
   DIR By: greeny
       Date: December 5, 2023, 12:43 pm
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       It'll actually be his 7th - he's refereeing Wolves v Burnley
       tonight.  I feel like with the rise of Brooks, Gillett has been
       sidelined a little bit - Villa v Arsenal is an excellent
       appointment however.
       #Post#: 71923--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 9th & Sun 10th DEC 2023
   DIR By: Claretman
       Date: December 5, 2023, 12:46 pm
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       Surprised to see Gillett on the Villa v Arsenal game, he just
       doesnt seem to have had many games or a consistent run.
       A good referee who is settling down in the premier league.
       I do fear when i see his name on a villa game, nothing about his
       refereeing skills, just results never seem to go our way when he
       in the middle (dont have stats to prove this, its just a
       feeling), i often had that feeling when Mike Dean refereed us
       but rarely did he put a foot wrong and i liked the way he
       refereed games.
       Seems Anthony Taylor is having a well deserved break from the
       middle.
       #Post#: 71959--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 9th & Sun 10th DEC 2023
   DIR By: takethejag
       Date: December 6, 2023, 10:36 am
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       --- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
       >
       > Another meeting with Tierney for us. The last two times we had
       him he was disappointing.
       >
       > I’m sure Martin will be exemplary holding the numbers board.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Why Tierney again when (for example), we haven't has Gillett
       once yet? I'm sure Macho Man Martin will have no trouble holding
       the boards aloft for the entire 90 minutes with his rippling,
       toned physique.
       #Post#: 71962--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sat 9th & Sun 10th DEC 2023
   DIR By: Whistleblower
       Date: December 6, 2023, 11:05 am
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       --- Quote from: GingerReferee link ---
       >
       > SG1 in FL
       >
       >
       > Saturday 9th December 2023
       > Stoke City FC (First Team) v Sheffield Wednesday FC (First
       Team)
       > Football League Championship
       > Referee: Coote, David
       > Assistant Referee: Wood, Timothy
       > Assistant Referee: Scholes, Mark
       > Fourth Official: Stroud, Keith
       >
       > Sunderland AFC (First Team) v West Bromwich Albion FC (First
       Team)     Live on Sky Sports
       > Football League Championship
       > Referee: Bond, Darren
       > Assistant Referee: Beswick, Gary
       > Assistant Referee: Eaton, Derek
       > Fourth Official: Woods, Martin
       >
       > Tuesday 12th December 2023
       > Watford FC (First Team) v Ipswich Town F.C. (First Team)
       Live on Sky Sports Arena
       > Football League Championship
       > Referee: Coote, David England, Darren
       > Assistant Referee: Wood, Timothy
       > Assistant Referee: Scholes, Mark
       > Fourth Official: Donohue, Matthew
       >
       > Wednesday 13th December 2023
       > Queens Park Rangers FC (First Team) v Plymouth Argyle FC
       (First Team)      Live on Sky Sports Red Button
       > Football League Championship
       > Referee: Harrington, Tony
       > Assistant Referee: Nunn, Adam
       > Assistant Referee: West, Richard
       > Fourth Official: Allison, Sam
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Being away next week prevents me from going to Vicarage Road, as
       I would surely have done, thus missing out on seeing David
       Coote. It's not too difficult to choke back my disappointment
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