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European Cups - linesmen queries
By: Ted Best 2 Date: October 26, 2023, 10:24 am
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Hi
Looking for help on the following linesmen from European
competition matches:
03/10/1973 E1 Liverpool v Jeunesse d'Esch
One of the Swedish linesmen listed in the match programme is
Per-Olof Callh. I’ve not been able to verify this name. Callh
doesn’t sound very Swedish. Can anyone help?
22/10/1975 E2 FK Ararat Yerevan v West Ham United
One source I’ve found for one of the West German linesmen is
Gerhard Bachmann. I’ve not been able to verify this name. Can
anyone help?
27/09/1978 E1 Liverpool v Nottingham Forest
One of the French linesmen listed in the match programme is
Clement. I not been able to find a forename. It is possible that
this is in fact the forename and not the surname? Can anyone
help?
18/03/1981 E2 FK Dinamo Tbilisi v West Ham United
One source I’ve found for one of the West German linesmen is H.
Daicher. I’ve not been able to verify this name. It is possible
the ‘H’ stands for Herr and not necessarily the initial of the
forename. Can anyone help?
30/09/1981 E3 Arsenal v Panathinaikos
One of the Austrian linesmen listed in the match programme is G.
Lind. I’ve not been able to verify this name. There were around
this period two officials named Günther Lindner and Günther
Bind. Can anyone help?
HTML https://www.sport.de/fussball/pe250336/guenther-lindner/oesterreich-bundesliga/spiele-als-schiedsrichter/
HTML https://www.weltfussball.de/schiedsrichter_profil/guenther-bind/1/2/
04/11/1981 E3 Sporting Clube de Portugal v Southampton
One source I’ve found for one of the Swiss linesmen was Hansrudi
Jakober. I’ve not been able to verify this name. There was an
official around this time named Hans Jaberg. Can anyone help?
HTML https://www.sport.de/fussball/pe586034/hans-jaberg/schweiz-super-league/se37968/1975-1976/spiele-als-schiedsrichter/
Thanks
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Re: European Cups - linesmen queries
By: John Treleven Date: October 26, 2023, 1:56 pm
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Per-Olof Callh (Uppsala, Sweden)
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Re: European Cups - linesmen queries
By: Ted Best 2 Date: October 26, 2023, 2:08 pm
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Thanks John for the confirmation.
Do you have a link or a source for this?
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Re: European Cups - linesmen queries
By: John Treleven Date: October 26, 2023, 2:37 pm
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He turns up a couple of times in the history of Hammarby matches
HTML https://www.hammarbyfotboll.se/hammarby-fotboll/historia/
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Re: European Cups - linesmen queries
By: John Treleven Date: October 26, 2023, 2:39 pm
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Heinz Deutscher (GER)
HTML https://www.eurocups-uefa.ru/cwc/cwc1981/6812-cw1981_029_2.html
Gerhard Bachmann (GER)
HTML https://www.eurocups-uefa.ru/cwc/cw1976/6413-cw1976_023_1.html
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Re: European Cups - linesmen queries
By: Ted Best 2 Date: October 27, 2023, 8:52 am
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[quote author=John Treleven link=topic=5314.msg69979#msg69979
date=1698349029]
He turns up a couple of times in the history of Hammarby matches
HTML https://www.hammarbyfotboll.se/hammarby-fotboll/historia/
[/quote]
It may just be me but I couldn't find anything on the quoted
link. However, I did find confirmation of the spelling on this
site:
HTML https://hifhistoria.se/
Many thanks
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Re: European Cups - linesmen queries
By: Ted Best 2 Date: October 28, 2023, 6:18 am
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HTML https://www.eurocups-uefa.ru/
I hadn't been aware of this website. It looks interesting.
I've been able to locate data for the Cup Winners Cup and
European Cup (pre Champions Legaue) but can't find Champions
League or UEFA Cup. Do I have to signup/register? Can anyone
help or provide links.
Many thanks
Ted
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Re: European Cups - linesmen queries
By: Ted Best 2 Date: October 29, 2023, 5:52 am
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I’ve managed to find a way to locate the European Cup, Champions
League and UEFA Cup matches now.
I have been researching the linesmen for matches involving
English clubs in Europe and it looked like this website had
exactly what I was looking for those that I was missing. Since
circa 2000 the UEFA.com website has provided this information
over the years, although they aren’t all available in its
current format. It is the 1990’s period (post Heysel return)
that I was looking for. Some of this I had obtained at the time
directly from UEFA (during the pre-internet era), although it is
incomplete, and others via match programmes / teamsheets etc.
I had hoped it would be just a case of filling in the blanks.
However, when comparing the data on this website with what I
already held I noted many differences, which doesn’t fill me
with confidence of its accuracy. Whilst I accept changes can
occur from those published in advance in a programme there just
seems to be too many.
A few examples:
21/08/91 SV Sparkasse Stockerau v Tottenham
The below link has Marc Huguenin, Alain Gourdet (FRA)
HTML https://www.eurocups-uefa.ru/cwc/cwc1992/14147-2-sv-stockerau-aut-tottenham-hotspur-eng-01.html
UEFA gave me Bluet and Kremer – see attached scan
27/09/1994 Newcastle v Antwerp
The below link has Tore Aaland, Erik Ræstad (NOR)
HTML https://www.eurocups-uefa.ru/uec/uec1995/18163-103-newcastle-united-eng-royal-antwerp-fc-bel-52.html
UEFA gave me Aaland and Engebretsen – see attached scan
10/04/1991 – Legia Warsaw v Manchester United
The below link has Léon Schelings, Michel Piraux (BEL)
HTML https://www.eurocups-uefa.ru/cwc/cwc1991/16618-59-legia-warszawa-pol-manchester-united-eng-13.html
The attached teamsheet has Marcel van Langenhove and Christian
Dombret
03/11/1993 – Galatasaray v Manchester United
The below link has Živanko Popović, Ernst Felder (SUI)
HTML https://www.eurocups-uefa.ru/ucl/ucl1994/13669-63-galatasaray-tur-manchester-united-eng-00.html
The attached teamsheet has Popovic and Pulfer
03/11/1993 – Norwich v Bayern Munich
The below link has Stany Op De Beeck, Marc Van Den Broeck (BEL)
HTML https://www.eurocups-uefa.ru/uec/uec1994/18022-90-norwich-city-eng-bayern-munchen-ger-11.html
The attached programme has Matthys and Van Broeck (which should
be Van den Broeck)
15/09/1993 – Norwich v Vitesse
The below link has Gerhard Gerstenmayer, Roman Kollmann (AUT)
HTML https://www.eurocups-uefa.ru/uec/uec1994/18007-28-norwich-city-eng-vitesse-ned-30.html
UEFA gave me Gerstenmayer and Pikner
02/03/1994 – Torino v Arsenal
The below link has Alain Gourdet, Jacques Poudevigne (FRA)
HTML https://www.eurocups-uefa.ru/cwc/cwc1994/16649-70-torino-fc-ita-arsenal-fc-eng-00.html
The attached teamsheet has (Bernard) Marek and (Claude) Malavaux
I will try to contact the website to see if they can explain the
differences or where their information came from but it is
really just to give a heads-up to anyone using this site that
alternative verification may need to be sought.
If anyone has any thoughts or comments please let me know.
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Re: European Cups - linesmen queries
By: Ted Best 2 Date: October 29, 2023, 5:57 am
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The remaining attachments
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Re: European Cups - linesmen queries
By: stepan Date: October 29, 2023, 7:35 am
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The data on assistant referees on this site is incorrect,
especially in the 90s.
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