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       Re: M OLIVER - Arsenal v Man City
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: October 9, 2023, 5:52 pm
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       --- Quote from: DBLTFC link ---
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       > I copy this directly from social media:
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       > “Letting himself down and someone needs to give him a kick up
       the backside. Work rate not good enough. He is coasting. Should
       not have been allowed to officiate in the Middle East on
       Thursday with such a big game appointment.”
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       > Sounds like any other fan comment, right? From bloody Keith
       Hackett of all people. With friends like these who needs
       enemies?
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       Is Hackett having a laugh when he complains about “coasting” and
       “work rate not good enough”.
       If this match was played in his era and at the speed it is today
       he’d be finished in ten minutes!
       Give me strength!!
       #Post#: 69321--------------------------------------------------
       Re: M OLIVER - Arsenal v Man City
   DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
       Date: October 9, 2023, 5:56 pm
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       --- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
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       > Hackett talks complete. . Now what's the word again ?
       Spherical objects you kick and head on a football pitch to score
       a goal. Ah yes ...
       >
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       My learn’d poster is quite restrained with his terminology!
       I can however get the succinct impression that more suitably
       stronger words wouldn’t be out of place in reaction to the
       comments made by K S Hackett.
       #Post#: 69323--------------------------------------------------
       Re: M OLIVER - Arsenal v Man City
   DIR By: Whistleblower
       Date: October 10, 2023, 2:32 am
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       When I retired from full time working, a very wise senior
       colleague who himself had been retired for some while, gave me
       this excellent piece of advice " never become one of those sour
       and ungracious people who are always harking back to their
       supposed glory days and bemoaning the competence and abilities
       of the generation who come after you and don't ever say ' in my
       day'  " This colleague was then generous enough to say that he
       thought the advice was really relevant for some people but was
       probably fairly redundant for me.
       Most of us have had the experience of junior colleagues who have
       overtaken us in terms of rank and prestige. Some deservedly so
       and others perhaps less so. Ambition is a fine thing in the
       young but when the old feel they have not quite reached the
       place in the pecking order which they believe they have
       deserved, it is all to easy " to stretch the folly of our youth
       to be the shame of age "  This applies to football referees as
       well as everyone else.
       #Post#: 69856--------------------------------------------------
       Re: M OLIVER - Arsenal v Man City
   DIR By: Readingfan
       Date: October 24, 2023, 1:58 am
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       Dale Johnson suggests in his latest VAR column for ESPN that the
       'Independent Panel' which reviews Key Match Incidents did not
       judge the lack of intervention from Brooks for the first yellow
       card challenge to be a VAR error.
       However, he also indicates that  the panel felt the better
       decision from Oliver for the first challenge would have been a
       red card. I think this is where a lot of people will have a
       problem with VAR. Once only a yellow was shown for the first
       challenge, Johnson also reports panel thought second challenge
       should have been sanctioned with a yellow card (obviously not
       something for VAR.)
       For the record, Johnson also reports the non red card in the
       Brighton V Liverpool game on the same day was not considered a
       VAR error by the panel.
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