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       #Post#: 69071--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jarred Gillett - wear tees Derby out of his depth
   DIR By: RCG
       Date: October 7, 2023, 11:50 am
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       "If Gillet cannot accept industrial language used in the heat of
       the game then he is in the wrong profession"
       Why is it "industrial" language? Other "professions" would not
       accept foul language, why should football?
       Just a cheap excuse for players who cannot talk to referees
       politely in the heat of battle
       #Post#: 69072--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jarred Gillett - wear tees Derby out of his depth
   DIR By: RCG
       Date: October 7, 2023, 11:52 am
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       Was it not a Sunderland fan who earlier this week said "it's not
       a derby?" So why the special treatment?
       #Post#: 69073--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jarred Gillett - wear tees Derby out of his depth
   DIR By: guest308
       Date: October 7, 2023, 11:52 am
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       --- Quote from: robbieg link ---
       >
       > [quote author=charlieboy link=topic=5266.msg69066#msg69066
       date=1696695665]
       > Interesting thread this , criticism of a referees performance
       for applying the laws both correctly and consistently with how
       all clubs were told they would be , I actually think Mr Gillett
       should be pleased as the complaints are actually due to him
       carrying out his job right .
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The problem is though he broke a promise to both managers that
       he would manage the game with empathy.
       Show me what empathy he displayed.
       He refereed like he was in charge of a five year old child
       having a birthday party.
       [/quote]
       What empathy has been shown while arguing with his decisions?
       Where does it say in law that dissent will be punished except
       for Sunderland,  far too long players have acted like spoilt
       children at a birthday party and now I am pleased to say a stop
       is being put to it . Football is tarnished by the childish rants
       that happen everytime something doesn't go their way,  time has
       come to grow up and get on with the game .
       #Post#: 69074--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jarred Gillett - wear tees Derby out of his depth
   DIR By: Joecphillips
       Date: October 7, 2023, 12:00 pm
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       --- Quote from: charlieboy link ---
       >
       > [quote author=robbieg link=topic=5266.msg69070#msg69070
       date=1696697228]
       > [quote author=charlieboy link=topic=5266.msg69066#msg69066
       date=1696695665]
       > Interesting thread this , criticism of a referees performance
       for applying the laws both correctly and consistently with how
       all clubs were told they would be , I actually think Mr Gillett
       should be pleased as the complaints are actually due to him
       carrying out his job right .
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The problem is though he broke a promise to both managers that
       he would manage the game with empathy.
       Show me what empathy he displayed.
       He refereed like he was in charge of a five year old child
       having a birthday party.
       [/quote]
       What empathy has been shown while arguing with his decisions?
       Where does it say in law that dissent will be punished except
       for Sunderland,  far too long players have acted like spoilt
       children at a birthday party and now I am pleased to say a stop
       is being put to it . Football is tarnished by the childish rants
       that happen everytime something doesn't go their way,  time has
       come to grow up and get on with the game .
       [/quote]
       Nobody is asking for special treatment here just equatable
       treatment, wasn’t a getting in a referees face was a swear word
       a distance from the official it’s picked up pretty much every
       game on tv microphones but every other ref handles it properly.
       Equally wouldn’t have been an issue if gillet had did his job
       and actually gave the foul, something he was very inconsistent
       with that and cards throughout the game but keep glossing over
       that part.
       #Post#: 69075--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jarred Gillett - wear tees Derby out of his depth
   DIR By: guest308
       Date: October 7, 2023, 12:03 pm
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       --- Quote from: Joecphillips link ---
       >
       > [quote author=charlieboy link=topic=5266.msg69073#msg69073
       date=1696697578]
       > [quote author=robbieg link=topic=5266.msg69070#msg69070
       date=1696697228]
       > [quote author=charlieboy link=topic=5266.msg69066#msg69066
       date=1696695665]
       > Interesting thread this , criticism of a referees performance
       for applying the laws both correctly and consistently with how
       all clubs were told they would be , I actually think Mr Gillett
       should be pleased as the complaints are actually due to him
       carrying out his job right .
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The problem is though he broke a promise to both managers that
       he would manage the game with empathy.
       Show me what empathy he displayed.
       He refereed like he was in charge of a five year old child
       having a birthday party.
       [/quote]
       What empathy has been shown while arguing with his decisions?
       Where does it say in law that dissent will be punished except
       for Sunderland,  far too long players have acted like spoilt
       children at a birthday party and now I am pleased to say a stop
       is being put to it . Football is tarnished by the childish rants
       that happen everytime something doesn't go their way,  time has
       come to grow up and get on with the game .
       [/quote]
       Nobody is asking for special treatment here just equatable
       treatment, wasn’t a getting in a referees face was a swear word
       a distance from the official it’s picked up pretty much every
       game on tv microphones but every other ref handles it properly.
       [/quote]I apologise I m8ght be being a bit dim but I'm still
       struggling here , could you please quote me which law from LOAF
       that Mr Gillett has applied incorrectly because I'm not getting
       it. You say other referees would deal with it correctly? But Mr
       Gillett has given a second caution for being sworn at by a
       player from distance,  the only thing incorrect could be it
       should have been straight red ? Is that the complaint ?
       #Post#: 69076--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jarred Gillett - wear tees Derby out of his depth
   DIR By: Joecphillips
       Date: October 7, 2023, 12:04 pm
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       --- Quote from: RCG link ---
       >
       > Was it not a Sunderland fan who earlier this week said "it's
       not a derby?" So why the special treatment?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Special treatment? This is a thing that will happen in every
       other game this weekend but will not a booking in any of them
       #Post#: 69077--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jarred Gillett - wear tees Derby out of his depth
   DIR By: Joecphillips
       Date: October 7, 2023, 12:12 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: charlieboy link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Joecphillips link=topic=5266.msg69074#msg69074
       date=1696698014]
       > [quote author=charlieboy link=topic=5266.msg69073#msg69073
       date=1696697578]
       > [quote author=robbieg link=topic=5266.msg69070#msg69070
       date=1696697228]
       > [quote author=charlieboy link=topic=5266.msg69066#msg69066
       date=1696695665]
       > Interesting thread this , criticism of a referees performance
       for applying the laws both correctly and consistently with how
       all clubs were told they would be , I actually think Mr Gillett
       should be pleased as the complaints are actually due to him
       carrying out his job right .
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The problem is though he broke a promise to both managers that
       he would manage the game with empathy.
       Show me what empathy he displayed.
       He refereed like he was in charge of a five year old child
       having a birthday party.
       [/quote]
       What empathy has been shown while arguing with his decisions?
       Where does it say in law that dissent will be punished except
       for Sunderland,  far too long players have acted like spoilt
       children at a birthday party and now I am pleased to say a stop
       is being put to it . Football is tarnished by the childish rants
       that happen everytime something doesn't go their way,  time has
       come to grow up and get on with the game .
       [/quote]
       Nobody is asking for special treatment here just equatable
       treatment, wasn’t a getting in a referees face was a swear word
       a distance from the official it’s picked up pretty much every
       game on tv microphones but every other ref handles it properly.
       [/quote]I apologise I m8ght be being a bit dim but I'm still
       struggling here , could you please quote me which law from LOAF
       that Mr Gillett has applied incorrectly because I'm not getting
       it. You say other referees would deal with it correctly? But Mr
       Gillett has given a second caution for being sworn at by a
       player from distance,  the only thing incorrect could be it
       should have been straight red ? Is that the complaint ?
       [/quote]
       Sworn at by a player looking the other way, the officials have
       heard a comment and blew it up. Once again if we apply the rules
       you want the game ends with no players on the pitch.
       You’re also conveniently ignoring the rest of the post
       simulation is a yellow card but at 0-0 he bottled sending
       greenwood off for that after he bottled sending greenwood off
       for a late high challenge both for 2nd yellow cards why is he
       picking and choosing what laws apply in the game?
       #Post#: 69078--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jarred Gillett - wear tees Derby out of his depth
   DIR By: Boggle
       Date: October 7, 2023, 12:14 pm
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       Interesting discussion here. Mr Gillett seems particularly
       strict on dissent and I have no problem with that. Perhaps the
       only gripe that could be had is that other refs aren’t as strict
       so his decisions appear harsher. That said, in no other
       profession would it be acceptable for someone to shout, swear
       and gesticulate at the person in charge, so if it takes a few
       red cards to hopefully bring some decorum back into the game
       then bring them on. Hopefully more refs take a similar approach
       and players will have to adjust their language and temperament
       to something more appropriate.
       #Post#: 69080--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jarred Gillett - wear tees Derby out of his depth
   DIR By: robbieg
       Date: October 7, 2023, 12:21 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: RCG link ---
       >
       > Was it not a Sunderland fan who earlier this week said "it's
       not a derby?" So why the special treatment?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It was myself.
       My side have been beaten badly in the past and no doubt will
       suffer humiliation in the future as will every other side but
       all we ask is that if a referee says he will manage with empathy
       he keeps his promise.
       #Post#: 69082--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Jarred Gillett - wear tees Derby out of his depth
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: October 7, 2023, 12:24 pm
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       How do you know he said he "would manage with empathy"?  Were
       you in the pre-match briefing?
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