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#Post#: 68162--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 23rd & Sun 24th SEP 2023
By: OwdReds Date: September 20, 2023, 6:40 am
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I remember being told by my uncle in the early 1960's that
players regularly refused to play on Christmas Day and Good
Friday because of religious belief and the clubs couldn't do
anything about it. I also remember cricket teams in the
Lancashire League fielding substitute professionals on Sundays
at that time because the contracted professional wouldn't play
on Sundays. A lot has changed since then and I suspect
contractual arrangements for players and officials are very
different now.
#Post#: 68163--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 23rd & Sun 24th SEP 2023
By: TVOS Date: September 20, 2023, 7:21 am
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[quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=5211.msg68156#msg68156
date=1695193281]
[quote author=Beacon link=topic=5211.msg68155#msg68155
date=1695191951]
It is really poor that the NL Derby has been scheduled on the
same weekend as Yom
Kippur - the Jewish Day of Atonement, given the fan base of
these clubs.
[/quote]
Without wishing to comment specifically on this fixture and it's
timing, I was saddened some years ago when professional football
matches started to happen on Good Friday. I suppose every person
makes their own decisions as informed by their religious or
philosophical beliefs or lack of them. Personally I do not
attend football matches on Good Friday, whilst respecting the
rights and decisions of those who do.
[/quote]
There have always been matches on Good Friday. In the 1950s and
1960s, most teams played on Good Friday, Easter Saturday and
Easter Monday/Tuesday.
#Post#: 68165--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 23rd & Sun 24th SEP 2023
By: Whistleblower Date: September 20, 2023, 8:14 am
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[quote author=TVOS link=topic=5211.msg68163#msg68163
date=1695212472]
[quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=5211.msg68156#msg68156
date=1695193281]
[quote author=Beacon link=topic=5211.msg68155#msg68155
date=1695191951]
It is really poor that the NL Derby has been scheduled on the
same weekend as Yom
Kippur - the Jewish Day of Atonement, given the fan base of
these clubs.
[/quote]
Without wishing to comment specifically on this fixture and it's
timing, I was saddened some years ago when professional football
matches started to happen on Good Friday. I suppose every person
makes their own decisions as informed by their religious or
philosophical beliefs or lack of them. Personally I do not
attend football matches on Good Friday, whilst respecting the
rights and decisions of those who do.
[/quote]
There have always been matches on Good Friday. In the 1950s and
1960s, most teams played on Good Friday, Easter Saturday and
Easter Monday/Tuesday.
[/quote]
How one's mind plays tricks, that is absolutely right. Perhaps I
was getting confused with regular football being played on a
Sunday when, incidentally, I have watched on a number of
occasions though I never have nor would on Good Friday.
#Post#: 68173--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 23rd & Sun 24th SEP 2023
By: Shy Talk Date: September 20, 2023, 2:54 pm
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On Christmas Day 1946 Barnsley played Southampton at Oakwell.
Straight after the match both teams boarded a train, travelled
to Southampton and played the return game on Boxing Day.
#Post#: 68176--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 23rd & Sun 24th SEP 2023
By: Shy Talk Date: September 20, 2023, 3:00 pm
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Oddly enough the Barnsley club were formed because of a rugby
fixture played on Good Friday in 1887. A local vicar who was a
member of the team refused to play and resigned from the club in
protest.
In a fit of pique he then decided he would form an Association
club and play that sport instead! The rest, as they say, is
history.
#Post#: 68181--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 23rd & Sun 24th SEP 2023
By: Rory Stride Date: September 20, 2023, 6:29 pm
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Just noticed Newcastle had Stuart Attwell just two games and 3
weeks ago. Ridiculous Appointment.
4 Referees now done a team twice
Bankes (Sheffield, 2,5) Tierney ( 3,6) Attwell (4, 6) and Jones
(1,6)
#Post#: 68184--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 23rd & Sun 24th SEP 2023
By: TheThingFromLewes Date: September 21, 2023, 1:39 am
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Some serious mileage sending Ward and Robinson up to the North
East.
#Post#: 68189--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 23rd & Sun 24th SEP 2023
By: Leggy Date: September 21, 2023, 5:29 am
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[quote author=Shy Talk link=topic=5211.msg68173#msg68173
date=1695239679]
On Christmas Day 1946 Barnsley played Southampton at Oakwell.
Straight after the match both teams boarded a train, travelled
to Southampton and played the return game on Boxing Day.
[/quote]
I believe that was the norm in the immediate post-war years.
Not only would the clubs play the reverse fixture on Boxing Day
but the referee would take both games. An examination of the
Division 1 appointments (see "I Spy Old Refs") confirms this.
Also, trains on Christmas Day - there's an idea!
#Post#: 68200--------------------------------------------------
Re: Sat 23rd & Sun 24th SEP 2023
By: Acme Thunderer Date: September 21, 2023, 2:22 pm
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In the 1970s, the Surrey FA handbook specifically stated that
referees could not be required to officiate on Sundays or Good
Friday. I closed Good Friday on a couple of occasions, despite
the contributory league referees secretary saying that he
expected referees to be available throughout the Easter weekend,
and nothing further was ever said about it. I suspect the
reality of the situation might be a lot different now.
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