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       Re: Aston Villa vs Crystal Palace- Darren England (VAR Rob
       Jones)
   DIR By: Rory Stride
       Date: September 18, 2023, 7:00 am
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       --- Quote from: Mr Castilli link ---
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       > What on earth was VAR Jones doing to get so involved???
       England looked annoyed and frustrated … it was never clear cut
       no pen, so no need for him to get England over!! This what
       fustrates people.
       >
       > England correctly turned Jones down.
       >
       > Jones is best served imo trying to not drop further down the
       pecking order, I feel when Webb took over it might of took the
       handbrake off Jones but imo still doesn’t convince me as someone
       up to elite level.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Jones has always been a poor VAR official. He barely had any
       games as a VAR last season. England isn't elite level either
       #Post#: 68040--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Aston Villa vs Crystal Palace- Darren England (VAR Rob
       Jones)
   DIR By: Claretman
       Date: September 18, 2023, 9:21 am
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       --- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
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       > [quote author=Claretman link=topic=5197.msg67911#msg67911
       date=1694901850]
       > [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=5197.msg67902#msg67902
       date=1694886518]
       > Not convinced by the penalty at Villa park. Looks like Watkins
       kicked the defender to me. The fact England spent over 3 mins at
       the screen proves how much doubt there is over the decision
       >
       > Side note: best wishes to palace manager Roy Hodgson who was
       taken ill before the game
       >
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       Richards caught Watkins first and then played the ball with his
       other leg.
       England gave the penalty onfield, the var asked him to review,
       watching him look at the screen i was pretty sure he would stick
       by his original decision he didnt look convinced to change his
       mind.
       Many people have asked for a referee to be called to the screen
       in circumstances of doubt and when he is and sticks by his
       original decision as he isnt convinced by the replays he is
       shown to overturn his original decision criticism is made about
       how long it takes.
       Dont think it was clear and obvious to send England to the
       screen, but i guess that is just two referees with differing
       opinions seeing things differently.
       The pundits on the radio seem to think England was right to
       stick by his original decision.
       Best wishes to Roy Hodgson for a swift recovery.
       [/quote]
       We will have to disagree then because I actually think he plays
       the ball first, Watkins leaves his leg in to make sure he gets
       caught so it looks like a penalty from behind. England was too
       far away IMO to make a clear judgement
       [/quote]
       Opinions is what forums are all about and i respect yours ajb95
       just like i do all other contributors. Just like Jones and
       England we can have differing opinions.
       At the ground at the time of the incident watching England
       viewing the screen i said to other supporters around me he is
       going to stick with his original decision here.
       I can see both sides of the argument.
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