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       #Post#: 67678--------------------------------------------------
       Paul Marsden - Halifax v Southend
   DIR By: Rrob
       Date: September 9, 2023, 2:41 pm
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       Just interested in people's opinion, has anyone seen the red
       card (sorry not sure how to add a video) to the Halifax player.
       #Post#: 67688--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paul Marsden - Halifax v Southend
   DIR By: Ryan Ellis
       Date: September 9, 2023, 4:49 pm
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       I’ve seen it, very weird. But did the Halifax player hit Marsden
       in the face as well? If not, a stupid red card to give imo.
       #Post#: 67690--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paul Marsden - Halifax v Southend
   DIR By: elbee94
       Date: September 9, 2023, 6:11 pm
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       Just posted this in the non league thread but moving here - clip
       linked below. As I see it, the player tries to stop the refs arm
       from hitting him and hits the referee accidentally. It looks as
       though the referee originally goes to apologise and then pulls
       out a red card! Judging on a short clip alone, I think that’s a
       rash and radical response from Mr Marsden before he’s taken the
       time to think and process what’s just happened. Bizarre and only
       the player will know if it was to try and defend himself or
       whether he lashed out.
  HTML https://x.com/ollie_bayliss/status/1700579390122274918?s=46
       #Post#: 67694--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paul Marsden - Halifax v Southend
   DIR By: RCG
       Date: September 10, 2023, 1:57 am
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       From the limited angle looks like player running across penalty
       area, Marsden indicates throw in, catching the player, whose
       reaction is to lift his own arm.
       To me, purely accidental, apologies both ways,  say something
       like "at least I didn't go down!", shake hands and get on with
       it
       #Post#: 67695--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paul Marsden - Halifax v Southend
   DIR By: Seagull
       Date: September 10, 2023, 2:25 am
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       Just viewed the video from the link in a previous comment. The
       whole thing looks completely accidental to me and if I were the
       player, I would be asking for an appeal.
       #Post#: 67696--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paul Marsden - Halifax v Southend
   DIR By: Whistleblower
       Date: September 10, 2023, 2:38 am
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       I've seen it four or five times now and to be honest I could
       make a decent case for both the Prosecution and the Defence. I
       don't believe the player knew it was the referee who
       accidentally caught him by the arm; I think he thought it was
       another player trying to intimidate him and so he reacted rather
       strongly, one might say over strongly. Were I the referee I
       would have passed it off as an unintentional match incident and
       made a bit of a joke about it and not issue either a caution or
       a sending off.
       It does look initially as if Marsden was going to make light of
       it; I wonder if he got a message in his ear from AR or 4th
       saying something along the lines of " he's done you deliberately
       there "
       #Post#: 67698--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paul Marsden - Halifax v Southend
   DIR By: Seagull
       Date: September 10, 2023, 4:07 am
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       --- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
       >
       > I've seen it four or five times now and to be honest I could
       make a decent case for both the Prosecution and the Defence. I
       don't believe the player knew it was the referee who
       accidentally caught him by the arm; I think he thought it was
       another player trying to intimidate him and so he reacted rather
       strongly, one might say over strongly. Were I the referee I
       would have passed it off as an unintentional match incident and
       made a bit of a joke about it and not issue either a caution or
       a sending off.
       >
       > It does look initially as if Marsden was going to make light
       of it; I wonder if he got a message in his ear from AR or 4th
       saying something along the lines of " he's done you deliberately
       there "
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I agree. I think it's  a case of "Oops, sorry, mate" all round.
       #Post#: 67700--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paul Marsden - Halifax v Southend
   DIR By: doowe
       Date: September 10, 2023, 4:21 am
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       --- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
       >
       > I've seen it four or five times now and to be honest I could
       make a decent case for both the Prosecution and the Defence. I
       don't believe the player knew it was the referee who
       accidentally caught him by the arm; I think he thought it was
       another player trying to intimidate him and so he reacted rather
       strongly, one might say over strongly. Were I the referee I
       would have passed it off as an unintentional match incident and
       made a bit of a joke about it and not issue either a caution or
       a sending off.
       >
       > It does look initially as if Marsden was going to make light
       of it; I wonder if he got a message in his ear from AR or 4th
       saying something along the lines of " he's done you deliberately
       there "
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I suspect the CPS would not proceed on the evidence we haveseen
       #Post#: 67702--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Paul Marsden - Halifax v Southend
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: September 10, 2023, 4:41 am
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       Is it any wonder Mr Marsden got demoted from the EFL list?
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       Re: Paul Marsden - Halifax v Southend
   DIR By: TVOS
       Date: September 10, 2023, 5:26 am
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       --- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
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       > Is it any wonder Mr Marsden got demoted from the EFL list?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No.
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