URI:
   DIR Return Create A Forum - Home
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       RateTheRef
  HTML https://ratetheref.createaforum.com
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       *****************************************************
   DIR Return to: General Discussion
       *****************************************************
       #Post#: 69036--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Howard Webb VAR Review - Sky Sports 8pm
   DIR By: badref
       Date: October 6, 2023, 4:38 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Webb isn't stupid. He will 1000% show 'that' clip. There's
       absolutely zero chance of him not showing it.
       #Post#: 69038--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Howard Webb VAR Review - Sky Sports 8pm
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: October 6, 2023, 5:05 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: Readingfan link ---
       >
       > [quote author=rustyref link=topic=5176.msg69017#msg69017
       date=1696609376]
       > [quote author=Claretman link=topic=5176.msg69011#msg69011
       date=1696601492]
       > [quote author=Readingfan link=topic=5176.msg69007#msg69007
       date=1696596647]
       > It looks like next programme is scheduled for 7pm on Tuesday
       (10th October) and will be shown on Sky Sports and TNT 2.
       >
       > What incidents do we think will be discussed? There's normally
       about half a dozen.
       >
       > I would have said it would be interesting to hear the Aston
       Villa V Palace discussion as it was a case of a referee sticking
       with their original decision but it involved Darren England so
       they might want to leave that out, especially if Webb doesn't
       support England's decision. I'm sure the Spurs V Liverpool
       incident will be discussed.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I guess the Spurs v Liverpool incident will only be discussed if
       the investigation into the events are complete
       [/quote]
       Agree, if it isn't complete there is no way they can discuss it.
       All he'll be able to do is promise to discuss it on the next
       show.
       [/quote]
       I thought they'd said a review had been sent to Liverpool and
       the other 19 clubs?
       Even if there are still things being considered, I'm sure
       they'll say something about it. We've had the audio of it and a
       quick 'We're reviewing our communication protocols' will at
       least say something on the matter. I don't think we're going to
       get a 'We need to wait for Sue Gray' moment here!
       They might well play a clip from this weekend's games to show
       the updated communication protocols, presuming they've been
       sensible enough to implement something.
       [/quote]
       Sending the video isn't the end of it, there will have to be a
       thorough internal review.  Remember the officials are employees,
       there might well still be HR related procedures, there's no way
       they could talk about it as that would be a complete breach of
       employment law.
       #Post#: 69043--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Howard Webb VAR Review - Sky Sports 8pm
   DIR By: Readingfan
       Date: October 7, 2023, 3:38 am
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: rustyref link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Readingfan link=topic=5176.msg69032#msg69032
       date=1696627474]
       > [quote author=rustyref link=topic=5176.msg69017#msg69017
       date=1696609376]
       > [quote author=Claretman link=topic=5176.msg69011#msg69011
       date=1696601492]
       > [quote author=Readingfan link=topic=5176.msg69007#msg69007
       date=1696596647]
       > It looks like next programme is scheduled for 7pm on Tuesday
       (10th October) and will be shown on Sky Sports and TNT 2.
       >
       > What incidents do we think will be discussed? There's normally
       about half a dozen.
       >
       > I would have said it would be interesting to hear the Aston
       Villa V Palace discussion as it was a case of a referee sticking
       with their original decision but it involved Darren England so
       they might want to leave that out, especially if Webb doesn't
       support England's decision. I'm sure the Spurs V Liverpool
       incident will be discussed.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I guess the Spurs v Liverpool incident will only be discussed if
       the investigation into the events are complete
       [/quote]
       Agree, if it isn't complete there is no way they can discuss it.
       All he'll be able to do is promise to discuss it on the next
       show.
       [/quote]
       I thought they'd said a review had been sent to Liverpool and
       the other 19 clubs?
       Even if there are still things being considered, I'm sure
       they'll say something about it. We've had the audio of it and a
       quick 'We're reviewing our communication protocols' will at
       least say something on the matter. I don't think we're going to
       get a 'We need to wait for Sue Gray' moment here!
       They might well play a clip from this weekend's games to show
       the updated communication protocols, presuming they've been
       sensible enough to implement something.
       [/quote]
       Sending the video isn't the end of it, there will have to be a
       thorough internal review.  Remember the officials are employees,
       there might well still be HR related procedures, there's no way
       they could talk about it as that would be a complete breach of
       employment law.
       [/quote]
       As I mentioned, the PGMOL statement on Tuesday said they'd
       carried out a review and sent a detailed report to the PL which
       had been shared with the 20 clubs.
       Even if there were still issues outstanding, I'm sure they'll
       say something about it, even if it's just to repeat what the
       PGMOL said in their two public statements. The second one was
       fairly detailed and spoke about learning points for the future
       etc.
       It's a pre-recorded show in a relatively controlled environment
       and as mentioned it's not as if Michael Owen is Jeremy Paxman!
       #Post#: 69351--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Howard Webb VAR Review - Sky Sports 8pm
   DIR By: magpie1892
       Date: October 10, 2023, 1:13 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Good process change shown during Man Utd v Brentford game
       following the Liverpool game the following week
       Very good communication between Ref Madley and VAR Bankes
       #Post#: 69352--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Howard Webb VAR Review - Sky Sports 8pm
   DIR By: magpie1892
       Date: October 10, 2023, 1:15 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Another good example of communication by John Brooks and VAR
       Michael Oliver.
       #Post#: 69353--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Howard Webb VAR Review - Sky Sports 8pm
   DIR By: Rory Stride
       Date: October 10, 2023, 1:54 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Its strange to me, this is the fourth release of VAR audio,
       almost all referees have featured at some point. However, Paul
       Tierney hasn't. The only VAR errors that Webb hasn't used as
       examples, are the ones in which Paul Tierney is involved. He
       doesn't come across as someone who talks to players well either,
       also there is not a single interview of him anywhere. Most of
       the other referees have something, especially the main ones.
       I just want to know what he sounds likee
       #Post#: 69354--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Howard Webb VAR Review - Sky Sports 8pm
   DIR By: TVOS
       Date: October 10, 2023, 1:56 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: Rory Stride link ---
       >
       > Its strange to me, this is the fourth release of VAR audio,
       almost all referees have featured at some point. However, Paul
       Tierney hasn't. The only VAR errors that Webb hasn't used as
       examples, are the ones in which Paul Tierney is involved. He
       doesn't come across as someone who talks to players well either,
       also there is not a single interview of him anywhere. Most of
       the other referees have something, especially the main ones.
       >
       > I just want to know what he sounds likee
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       He sounds like Darren Bond who sounds like Stuart Maconie...
       #Post#: 69357--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Howard Webb VAR Review - Sky Sports 8pm
   DIR By: Matt1234
       Date: October 10, 2023, 2:17 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Of all the clips we have heard from the 3 instalments of these
       clips (1 last season, 2 this) Michael Oliver and Michael
       Salisbury appear to me to be really calm heads on VAR. Brooks on
       field appears quite aggressive. Not a criticism just seems to be
       the way he comes across.
       #Post#: 69358--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Howard Webb VAR Review - Sky Sports 8pm
   DIR By: Rory Stride
       Date: October 10, 2023, 2:23 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       --- Quote from: Matt1234 link ---
       >
       > Of all the clips we have heard from the 3 instalments of these
       clips (1 last season, 2 this) Michael Oliver and Michael
       Salisbury appear to me to be really calm heads on VAR. Brooks on
       field appears quite aggressive. Not a criticism just seems to be
       the way he comes across.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Just the way Brooks said wait to the keeper seemed really
       aggressive, just like when he sent Van Dijk off the other week
       #Post#: 69362--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Howard Webb VAR Review - Sky Sports 8pm
   DIR By: GingerReferee
       Date: October 10, 2023, 5:31 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       Does anyone have a copy of the episode somewhere at all?
       *****************************************************
       Page 4 of 13
   DIR Previous Page
   DIR Next Page