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       Re: Fri 1st – Sun 3rd SEP 2023
       By: ajb95 Date: August 29, 2023, 11:53 am
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       The fact that B Madley - wjo isn't even SG1 - gets a game before
       Harrington & Scott is nothing short of a disgrace!
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       Re: Fri 1st – Sun 3rd SEP 2023
       By: takethejag Date: August 29, 2023, 11:58 am
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       It is somewhat reassuring when facing an uphill task to play at
       the Etihad that at least arguably the best referee available
       will be in charge.
       Not sure what Brentford or Bournemouth have done to deserve
       Bobby Madley but clearly something even more heinous that Fulham
       did to get Darren Bond.  Bond is it at least allegedly a SG1
       referee, but clearly inferior to the other 'newbie' Robinson but
       as for Bobby Madley, he should be nowhere near the Premier
       League especially ahead of Pawson or Gillett (or Coote or Scott
       or Brooks or Bramhall)
       #Post#: 67326--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fri 1st – Sun 3rd SEP 2023
       By: bmb Date: August 29, 2023, 2:24 pm
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       I have no problem with Bobby Madley refereeing AFCB. He's had a
       couple of shockers in the past, also had a couple of excellent
       games and is normally fair.
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       Re: Fri 1st – Sun 3rd SEP 2023
       By: Whistleblower Date: August 29, 2023, 2:35 pm
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       Surely there can be little surprise that Bobby Madley is
       beginning to get his knees under the PL table again. I am quite
       convinced that was always the plan ever since his Prodigal
       return ( I refer to the parable rather a comment on his
       lifestyle )
       #Post#: 67328--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fri 1st – Sun 3rd SEP 2023
       By: Rory Stride Date: August 29, 2023, 2:43 pm
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       Personally Robert Madley is a much better referee than around
       50% of the current group
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       Re: Fri 1st – Sun 3rd SEP 2023
       By: keith h Date: August 29, 2023, 3:15 pm
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       [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=5151.msg67313#msg67313
       date=1693328012]
       The fact that B Madley - wjo isn't even SG1 - gets a game before
       Harrington & Scott is nothing short of a disgrace!
       [/quote]   perhaps he getting the games because he's a better
       referee.  I am sure Mr Webb will take into account your opinions
       on future occasions
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       Re: Fri 1st – Sun 3rd SEP 2023
       By: Readingfan Date: August 29, 2023, 3:47 pm
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       [quote author=DublinRef link=topic=5151.msg67298#msg67298
       date=1693304010]
       [quote author=dave26 link=topic=5151.msg67297#msg67297
       date=1693303312]
       Well certainly seems like Pawsons stock has gone down under
       Webb’s tenure so far , tbh I thought in the last few months of
       Riley’s era Pawson was improving - he seemed more confident and
       strikes me as a referee who knew a RC worthy challenge when it
       happened but seems to struggle with that aspect of the game now
       and relies on VAR maybe that’s what Webb  thinks aswell
       Good to see Jones and Robinson with another game , less pleased
       with Taylor on the Man Utd match
       [/quote]
       I was thinking the same dave. Perhaps part of the issue is that
       Pawson is a bit more of a European style referee (sometimes high
       card count, more detached from players) and maybe Webb doesn't
       like that. Who knows. There could of course be many other
       reasons for his slightly lower number of appointments. I do
       ponder though if he himself wonders why as England's third
       ranked FIFA official (yes I know Kavanagh also 1st group but
       clearly behind Pawson) he doesn't get better games.
       Personally speaking I agree with UEFA's assessment. I think he
       is England's third best official and very unfortunate to find
       himself without more appointments to higher profile games under
       Webb.
       [/quote]
       Interesting observation Dublin Ref. I would say that Webb
       sometimes seemed to have a more international style himself -
       although even if that was the case that of course doesn't
       necessarily mean he would favour that style himself in a
       management capacity! But given the current struggles then
       getting the best out of the likes of Pawson would seem both
       feasible and very useful.
       I'm not a great fan of Taylor getting both Chelsea V Liverpool
       and Arsenal V Man Utd in the first month of the season but
       perhaps it says something about current lack of depth.
       Some of the appointments seem a bit imbalanced so far. I think
       Taylor and Jones both have 4 PL games, whilst some have 0, and
       FIFA referees like Gillett and England only have 1.
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       Re: Fri 1st – Sun 3rd SEP 2023
       By: Hendo Date: August 29, 2023, 4:10 pm
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       [quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=5151.msg67327#msg67327
       date=1693337715]
       Surely there can be little surprise that Bobby Madley is
       beginning to get his knees under the PL table again. I am quite
       convinced that was always the plan ever since his Prodigal
       return ( I refer to the parable rather a comment on his
       lifestyle )
       [/quote]
       It gives me no pleasure in saying I told you so. As soon as he
       came back from exile I went on record here to say that the
       writing was on the wall that he would be back on the PL sooner
       than later. Sadly that seems to be the case and we are only 4
       weeks into the season. On merit? Not for me, overrated and comes
       across as full of himself. And of course nothing to do with him
       being a West Yorkshire man.
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       Re: Fri 1st – Sun 3rd SEP 2023
       By: Whistleblower Date: August 29, 2023, 4:21 pm
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       [quote author=Rory Stride link=topic=5151.msg67328#msg67328
       date=1693338224]
       Personally Robert Madley is a much better referee than around
       50% of the current group
       [/quote]
       That might be construed as damning with faint praise  [emoji6]
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       Re: Fri 1st – Sun 3rd SEP 2023
       By: PhiltheRef Date: August 29, 2023, 4:32 pm
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       I remain somewhat confusticated about the continuing opprobrium
       aimed at Mr Taylor.
       Even if I didn't know the guy I'd struggle to comprehend how
       you'd not want one of the two highest ranked FIFA refs available
       to cover a Man United (or City) game v Arsenal
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