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Mike Dean VAR Comments
DIR By: Carter
Date: August 24, 2023, 4:12 pm
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"Former Premier League official Mike Dean has admitted that he
refused to intervene on one of last season’s biggest VAR
controversies because the on-pitch referee ‘was a mate’.
The 55-year-old, who spent 22 years refereeing in the top
flight, became a dedicated VAR official last season after
hanging up his whistle but made a high-profile gaffe in just the
second matchday of the season.
Dean was on VAR duty for Tottenham’s visit to Chelsea on 16
August 2022, with Anthony Taylor the on-field referee, and both
managed to miss Cristian Romero’s clear hair pull on Marc
Cucurella in the final moments of the game.
The Argentine centre-back should have been shown a red card but
instead Dean chose not to intervene, with Spurs equalising from
the subsequent corner, and he was stood down from duty for the
following gameweek.
Dean, who has left his role with PGMOL and is part of Sky
Sports’ Soccer Saturday programme, has now revealed that it was
a conscious decision not to send Taylor to the monitor because
he did not want to create any more ‘grief’ for his friend.
Speaking on the Up Front podcast with Simon Jordan, Dean – who
regrets his decision – explained: ‘I missed the stupid hair pull
at Chelsea versus Tottenham which was pathetic from my point of
view.
‘It’s one of them where if I had my time again, what would I do?
I’d send Anthony [Taylor] to the screen. I think I knew if I did
send him to the screen … he’s cautioned both managers, he’s had
a hell of a game, it’s been such a tough game end to end.
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Re: Mike Dean VAR Comments
DIR By: watfordref
Date: August 24, 2023, 7:32 pm
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More quotes can be found at the link here...
HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66612570
I've thought carefully about my words to this so as not to
incriminate myself but I'm happy to change the wording to this
if need be..
This comes across so exceptionally badly. There are plenty of
people out there who believe the officials are incompetent, are
corrupt and deliberately make decisions/ignore things to help
each other out and back each other up. This plays into right
into those people's hands and there is really no defence. The
next time there is a bad decision that VAR doesn't overturn and
the media/managers/players etc claim the decision was
"premeditated" and "unfair" - what will the officials argument
back be? They clearly can't claim it doesn't/hasn't happened -
and if it's happened once (that we know of) - how can we
absolutely guarantee this type of action wasn't behind more poor
VAR decisions and couldn't happen again in the future?
I really am stunned by this tbh.
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Re: Mike Dean VAR Comments
DIR By: ARF
Date: August 25, 2023, 2:02 am
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I think this interview has set our relationships with everyone
else involved in football back years.
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Re: Mike Dean VAR Comments
DIR By: RCG
Date: August 25, 2023, 2:29 am
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When's the book coming out?
Whats the phrase "better to have them in the tent..."
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Re: Mike Dean VAR Comments
DIR By: elbee94
Date: August 25, 2023, 2:43 am
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This is quite astonishing. From my time reading this forum, it’s
used as a place to recognise the positives in officiating across
the country, but you can defend the indefensible. Appalling by
Dean to come out and say this - and I do feel sorry for Anthony
Taylor who’s not at fault at all but I imagine will face extra
scrutiny. Shame on Mike for doing it in the first place and also
for waiting until he’s out of the job to put a colleague in the
spotlight.
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Re: Mike Dean VAR Comments
DIR By: tef
Date: August 25, 2023, 3:59 am
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Hopefully that's just some BS overexaggerated story he's come up
with to grab a headline rather than being the underlying truth.
If it is, I wouldn't have had him anywhere near the VAR booth
ever again. I would say Howard Webb couldn't have feared a more
difficult start to the season both on and off the field than
what he's had.
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Re: Mike Dean VAR Comments
DIR By: Carter
Date: August 25, 2023, 4:06 am
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I agree it does harm the PGMOL
It perhaps adds more weight to needing to hear the conversation
between VAR and the Referee, to ensure these pally deals arent
being done.
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Re: Mike Dean VAR Comments
DIR By: Hertsref123
Date: August 25, 2023, 4:55 am
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I think the phrase “sometimes its best to say nothing at all”
applies here, Mike dean was an official I had a lot of respect
for, but these comments just make me lose a lot of respect for
him, if he really wanted to help Anthony Taylor, then he would
A) Not go to the media making these kind of comments, and B)
Help him come to the right decision on the day. Instead he’s
completely thrown him under the bus, and arguably caused more
grief then he would’ve done had he just acted on what was seen
on the tv screen.
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Re: Mike Dean VAR Comments
DIR By: Leggy
Date: August 25, 2023, 4:58 am
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I would like to think that this another inflated non-story by a
former referee who now needs to maintain a high-media profile to
earn a living (see Messrs Hackett, Poll, et al for other
examples).
But, whatever I think, this will add fuel to the fire that
refereeing mistakes are down to something other than human
frailty.
It will also add to the perception that bringing our top
referees (e.g. Oliver, Taylor) to the screen for an OFR is less
likely to happen because of their stature in the hierarchy of
Select Group referees. It is much less likely that Thomas
Bramhall will summon Michael Oliver to the screen than the other
way around. This is only human nature, but a pitfall of using
current active officials as VAR's.
Mike Dean will not materially suffer because of this furore as
his current employers will enjoy the publicity. His former
employers, however, have an increased credibility problem to
overcome - they will not thank him for that.
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Re: Mike Dean VAR Comments
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: August 25, 2023, 5:40 am
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You'd think after Clattenburg's comments a few years ago former
referees would have learnt not to speak about Chelsea V Spurs
games on podcasts!
Firstly, I'm not sure if I'm a great fan of a 1 hour podcast
being condensed to one dramatic headline. I think it is worth
remembering the context that Dean is fairly inexperienced at
speaking to the media and the comments can come across slightly
differently when listening to a full podcast, off the cuff and
informal by its nature, compared to just reading the written
word. It came across to me more as a slightly muddled attempt
from Dean at attempting to explain the error after the event
rather than a statement that 'I 100% knew it was a red card but
I chose not to intervene because Anthony is my mate' which seems
to be how it is being presented - apart from anything else, that
stance doesn't really make any sense because why would you
intentionally want a friend to make a mistake?
When listening to the full podcast it was interesting that Simon
Jordan didn't pick Dean up on this part and it was not
especially the bit that stood out most to me. I found the most
interesting part to be hearing how different Dean seemed to find
being a referee compared to being a VAR, and how he really
seemed to be struggling at times last season - he spoke about
dreading going down to Stockley Park and being petrified of
needing to get involved. (It was also interesting to hear Dean
say how his biggest regret was being suspended in 2005 because
it potentially restricted his chances of progressing further at
international level, something I know has been discussed before
as to why Dean didn't go further as a FIFA referee.)
I think there can sometimes be a lack of nuance in discussions
of this kind. You can have one extreme of e.g. 'New referees
will never overrule the top referees' and then the extreme
response of 'Every referee just calls things as they see it and
aren't influenced by anything else'. Referees are human beings
and as with any workplace different dynamics, factors and
pressures might sometimes play a part (but by no means always.)
In this case, a learning point might be how we get officials to
disregard incidents that have happened previously in a game.
It's sometimes presented that referees just automatically move
on and forget about things but I don't think anyone believes
that can always just automatically happen. If there's going to
be any sincerity to former referees' comments then I think you
need to allow them some scope to reveal human fallibility.
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