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       Re: England vs Nigeria: Melissa Borjas (Honduras)
   DIR By: Arbitre anglais
       Date: August 8, 2023, 12:35 pm
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       Or when the ref isn’t sure who did it …. cue loud whistle,
       gesture to come over, walk away and authoritive ‘yes please,
       blue!’ hoping someone steps forward and follows
       …😳😖
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       Re: England vs Nigeria: Melissa Borjas (Honduras)
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: August 9, 2023, 7:57 am
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       --- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
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       > You make very good points bmb. What I have always found
       slightly problematic is when a caution is given when it is
       clearly a dismissal offence. The referee has obviously seen an
       incident otherwise she would not caution but she hasn't
       interpreted what she has seen correctly. I can quite understand
       a referee missing an incident because of the angle of looking or
       a player in the line of vision but I am less tolerant of a
       viewing with a mistaken interpretation.
       >
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       Accept that totally but in reality how do we know if the
       misinterpretation is caused or at least partially caused by the
       angle of view or not? We all know what we think the ref's view
       would be but the fact is we don't actually know what their view
       was. Whether their view was down to sheer bad luck, for example
       looking too high and not being able to see what feet were up to,
       poor positioning leading them to not have an optimal view, a
       partially obscured view for something we may not consider due to
       the lovely clear TV angles we are given, despite knowing their
       view will be completely different to those, or whether they were
       not 100% focused is another matter entirely. I could see x from
       my grand height of 5'1, Viktor Kassai could stand in the exact
       same spot as me, facing the exact same way etc. and watching the
       exact same incident and would see something completely different
       to me from his 6'5 height.
       I just think that when viewing a game as a spectator, especially
       on TV we tend to make our judgements of any given decision with
       the benefit of lovely clear TV images, often slowed down and
       zoomed in, and completely forget that the referees view will not
       have been anything like the one we had, and as referees or now
       retired referees, we should have more awareness and empathy for
       that 'in reality' difference - we've all been there at some
       point.  I'd love to see a TV punditry show where the ref has a
       camera on and them show what the TV cameras view of an incident
       is and then compare it with the view from the ref cam - we all
       know how very different it would be!
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