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#Post#: 66122--------------------------------------------------
Rugby Championship, Summer Nations Series & RWC Warm Up Matc
hes
By: Alfie75 Date: August 6, 2023, 6:28 am
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Lots of games to feast our eyes on over the next few weeks.
Although I’ve not seen all the games, I thought I would start a
thread for some views of the World Cup officials from the games
I have managed to watch (on a side note - we are told that next
week the group stage appointments will be announced as all 12
referees will have had at least 1 match in this window):
Games not watched or televised:
Pacific Nations
Fiji v Tonga - Paul Williams
Samoa v Fiji - Angus Gardner
Japan v Samoa - Mathieu Raynal
Japan v Tonga - Matthew Carley
Warm Up Match
Uruguay v Chile - Luke Pearce
Rugby Championship:
South Africa v Australia - Ben O Keeffe
Thought Ben had a great game coming off the back of a whole load
of criticism for his handling of the Super Rugby Final (unjustly
so IMO).
Great start to the tournament from the Kiwi!!
Argentina v New Zealand - Angus Gardner
A game full of penalties and overall Angus was ok but didn’t
convince me with some decisions. However, no major issues, so he
would be content with that performance. He should also expect a
KO game at least.
New Zealand v South Africa - Mathieu Raynal
Another very polished performance by the Frenchman, in total
control and recovered nicely from the backlash he received last
summer.
Australia v Argentina - Jaco Peyper
What a game that was!!
Thought Jaco had a solid game with no real issues. I would
expect a semi final appointment for the South African
Australia v New Zealand - Wayne Barnes
Even though a one-sided match, Wayne had a very good game indeed
- his communication skills are second to none!
South Africa v Argentina - Andrew Brace
This was probably the most discussed game and the Irishman has
come in for a fair bit of criticism (mainly by the Boss fans)
whilst others defended his call for the whack on Grant Williams.
I think, that had he taken a bit more time, perhaps he would
change his mind. I would not have been surprised to see a yellow
card being handed out for that.
Quite frankly, the Irishman would not have wanted this so close
to the tournament and may affect the appointments for the group
stages.
New Zealand v Australia - Karl Dickson
Great game to watch form start to finish!
Overall, I thought Karl Dickson performed well and had no real
issues. He stayed calm in probably the biggest appointment of
his career to date.
Good sign leading into France.
Argentina v South Africa - Nika Amashukeli
There were soo many penalties in this game that it just wasn’t
an enjoyable watch. Overall we had 27 of them which tells you
everything
On the positive the young Georgian continues to impress and can
only referee what’s in front of him. He was in control, clear in
his explanations. Good job!
Pacific Nations:
Fiji v Japan - Matthew Carley
Thoroughly enjoyed this one!
Have to say, I wasn’t a fan of Matt’s performance. Thought he
was far too picky and have to say Japan had cause to complain
for the Fiji yellow card, whilst they received a red card pretty
early on. There were far too many TMO interjections which
could/should have been picked up by the officials.
Summer Nations Series:
Scotland v Italy - Ben O Keeffe
I didn’t enjoy Ben’s performance here, really scrappy game and
very stop start. I didn’t think he got to grips with the scrums
either. Though he was wrong with a few penalties too.
A game and performance to forget.
Scotland v France - Ben O Keeffe
Great win for the Scots, I wouldn’t however read too much into
that result as it was a vastly changed French side.
This outing for the Kiwi and I must say (didn’t pick it up
initially) why WR appointed him to a Scotland game for 2 weeks
in a row which could easily have been avoided.
Having said that, a far more polished performance by Ben and he
controlled the game well.
On a side note - thought AR2 Vedovelli was poor today and missed
at least 2 blatant calls.
Surely a guy in contention for a quarter final at the very
least!
Wales v England - Nic Berry
Not the greatest of games with a number of handling/unforced
errors.
The performances under Borthwick quite frankly have been awful -
I get they need time, but there is just no improvement with all
the talent in the country, I’m at a loss just how poorly they
played (particularly in the second half). A real worry if you’re
an England fan - have to say Argentina must be favourites to top
pool D.
Back to the officiating - Nic Berry performed well and correctly
overuled Joy Neville for the 3rd Wales try (which is a concern
that the TMO awards a try without checking properly and then
overturns her call).
Again - a re-occurring theme, the scrums were a mess and an area
Nic couldn’t get a grip of.
Ireland v Italy - Mathieu Raynal
A better game to watch in the second half, comfortable really
for the Irish.
No issues for Raynal with another accomplished performance by
France’s number 1 whistleblower.
He will be looking towards at least 1 KO match in his home World
Cup and I would expect to see him with a top clash in the group
stages.
If they perform to the expected levels and obviously dependant
on their countries performance, I would expect to see Barnes, O
Keeffe, Peyper & Raynal with at least a KO game (closely
followed by Pearce & Gardner).
#Post#: 66381--------------------------------------------------
Re: Rugby Championship, Summer Nations Series & RWC Warm Up
Matches
By: RCG Date: August 13, 2023, 4:20 am
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A number of things became clear at Twickenham yesterday
1. On current form neither Wales nor England will win WC
2. England only seem to perform when their backs are pressed
vert firmly against a wall
3. Owen Farrell still hasn't learnt how to tackle fairly
4. The big Georgian is ready for his WC
All the cards, in my opinion were justified. The 2 that followed
warnings was particularly pleasing.
I do like the "bunker"; worked well at U20s and seems to be
serving its purpose in these games.
#Post#: 66391--------------------------------------------------
Re: Rugby Championship, Summer Nations Series & RWC Warm Up
Matches
By: Hendo Date: August 13, 2023, 6:38 am
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[quote author=RCG link=topic=5076.msg66381#msg66381
date=1691918453]
A number of things became clear at Twickenham yesterday
1. On current form neither Wales nor England will win WC
2. England only seem to perform when their backs are pressed
vert firmly against a wall
3. Owen Farrell still hasn't learnt how to tackle fairly
4. The big Georgian is ready for his WC
All the cards, in my opinion were justified. The 2 that followed
warnings was particularly pleasing.
I do like the "bunker"; worked well at U20s and seems to be
serving its purpose in these games.
[/quote]
Totally agree. I am sure many will look at the stats and accuse
the Georgian of being card happy but to be honest you couldn’t
really argue with any. Good to see him not afraid to take strong
action.
Maybe sets some sort of marker for the WC. I too like the bunker
system as it reduces the interminable stoppage time reviewing
different angles. Let the TMO get on with that while play
continues.
And what a dire match! 💩
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Re: Rugby Championship, Summer Nations Series & RWC Warm Up
Matches
By: Alfie75 Date: August 14, 2023, 2:36 am
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Absolutely agree with all points made, thought the Georgian was
very good on Saturday in what was a really poor quality match
with 2 teams no-where near WC winners imho.
Compare that to a great France Scotland game with another decent
showing by Nic Berry (thought Karl Dickson wasn't great though
as AR with 2 decisions he got wrong).
Bunker system is the best process that has been put in place in
years!
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Re: Rugby Championship, Summer Nations Series & RWC Warm Up
Matches
By: Rhys147 Date: August 15, 2023, 12:12 pm
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I'd love to know how the disciplinary panel reviewing Owen's
Farrell red card came to the conclusion that Jamie George pushed
Taine Basham and therefore caused Owen Farrell to hit him in the
head?
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Re: Rugby Championship, Summer Nations Series & RWC Warm Up
Matches
By: RCG Date: August 15, 2023, 12:36 pm
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Because the IRC comprised of his mum, his gf and Steve Borthwick
😀
Bonkers, how many lives does OF have?
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Re: Rugby Championship, Summer Nations Series & RWC Warm Up
Matches
By: RCG Date: August 16, 2023, 1:28 am
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The part I really don't understand is the right arm is tucked,
there is no attempt to wrap, which I thought meant it was always
an illegal tackle.
Still believe the on field/on day system was not only good, but
also correct
#Post#: 66606--------------------------------------------------
Re: Rugby Championship, Summer Nations Series & RWC Warm Up
Matches
By: Alfie75 Date: August 16, 2023, 2:39 am
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Having spoken to a number of people within rugby, they were
shocked this RC was overturned as was I, this now sets a
precedent and Think a bad one!!
#Post#: 66607--------------------------------------------------
Re: Rugby Championship, Summer Nations Series & RWC Warm Up
Matches
By: Alfie75 Date: August 16, 2023, 2:41 am
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werw ere also told appointments would have been out last week
for the group stages - not sure what the hold-up is. Maybe
deliberate!
#Post#: 66611--------------------------------------------------
Re: Rugby Championship, Summer Nations Series & RWC Warm Up
Matches
By: Hertsref123 Date: August 16, 2023, 5:15 am
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World rugby cannot seriously claim to have players welfare as
number one priority and then make this decision. Especially when
Farrell has huge previous for this.
They’ve also opened a huge can of worms. Say a player is sent
off for a similar tackle in the world cup, What do they do? If
they don’t overturn it, there will be huge uproar there way,
even if the red was deserved.
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