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Re: Kits / Badges etc
DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
Date: June 16, 2023, 3:48 pm
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Give them all FIFA badges and be done with it 😂
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Re: Kits / Badges etc
DIR By: Ref25
Date: June 16, 2023, 4:07 pm
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As far as I am aware, nobody at L5 and below has been told by
The FA they cannot wear a kit that has the FAMOA badge on it.
The FA have:
1. Introduced a new badge for match officials at L4-L2B and 3W
to wear when working on Step 2 - Step 6 and Women’s Tier 3/4
matches.
2. Advised that the FAMOA badge will no longer be produced.
Point 2 inevitably leads to a question of ‘what badge would I
wear?’ It will be the CFA or competition badge. I think it is
common sense that if you have a kit with the FAMOA badge
permanently attached to it you can continue to wear it until you
replace it. Plenty of CFAs have changed their referee badge over
recent years and there hasn’t been an issue.
On the free match shirt (with new badge) and warm up top (no
badge) for L4 - L2B:
1. It is simply an extension of what has been done for officials
at Step 1 and above but on a smaller scale - it is not a full
kit.
2. There is a big difference between kitting out circa 1,800
officials and 25,000 from a cost and logistics perspective. It’s
not right to effectively argue against this because it cannot be
done for all officials.
3. This initiative is largely about professionalising the
appearance of the workforce in the semi-professional game. L4s
are probably getting this mainly because of their role as an AR
at Step 3/4.
4. I would think The FA need to be sure this kit is going to be
used for it to be a wise investment. L4 - L2B will for sure by
the nature of their level requiring a certain degree of
commitment. There will be plenty of referees at L5 and below who
won’t need / use whatever was provided for a variety of reasons,
leading to wasted investment. The incentive scheme was a good
way of dealing with this and it would be good to see that
return.
I don’t agree with the arguments against this initiative. It’s a
good thing for The FA to have done and it would be great to see
it extended in time, but nothing wrong with starting small using
whatever funds are available now.
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Re: Kits / Badges etc
DIR By: bmb
Date: June 16, 2023, 4:20 pm
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There is a scheme where certainly the PL officials & I expect FL
ones as well donate their kit at the end of the season and those
kits get passed on to younger/newer refs. Maybe that scheme
could be extended.
I get what Phil is saying, he's not saying he's against the
scheme but more wouldn't it be nice if free kits went to those
school kids starting out and newer refs starting their journey.
As many things in life the freebies go to those who don't need
it from a financial perspective but there is nothing similar for
those who would benefit so much more. Maybe if we all took the
kit we have and no longer use and found a new ref starting out
and donated it to them we could help those at the very bottom of
the pile out. I did that with Jrs kit when he gave up
refereeing. He kept all the shirts passed onto him by pro ref
friends because they were gifts but kit he (well I) had bought
we gave to a couple of young lads starting out.
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Re: Kits / Badges etc
DIR By: Whistleblower
Date: June 16, 2023, 4:27 pm
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It is extraordinary, to me, how badges and different kit assume
such an importance. A very good referee of yesteryear, Gordon
Hill, never wore any badges except when he was given the League
Cup Final when I understood he was told it was de rigueur to
wear one and so he acquiesced.
My profession has its share of "quaint and colourful costumes"
and the people who make the greatest fuss about wearing that to
which their rank gives entitlement are by no means invariably
the best practitioners. A wise and learned senior member of the
profession once said to me " it's not what's on your head but
what's in it which is the most important thing "
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Re: Kits / Badges etc
DIR By: PhiltheRef
Date: June 17, 2023, 3:47 am
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Thank you BMB, as always you have explained what I was trying to
say much better than me.
I have an "apprentice", a teenaged girl who I have kitted out
with stuff I no longer use (whistles, flags, watches and a shirt
she could probably fit 2 of herself in with room to spare)
Had I not been able to do this (or had somebody not been able to
rather) she would have struggled to begin her refereeing
journey.
I'm not looking for plaudits, just trying to put some meat on
the bones of what I had tried so appallingly badly to say in the
first place
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Re: Kits / Badges etc
DIR By: bmb
Date: June 17, 2023, 4:10 am
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--- Quote from: PhiltheRef link ---
>
> Thank you BMB, as always you have explained what I was trying
to say much better than me.
> I have an "apprentice", a teenaged girl who I have kitted out
with stuff I no longer use (whistles, flags, watches and a shirt
she could probably fit 2 of herself in with room to spare)
> Had I not been able to do this (or had somebody not been able
to rather) she would have struggled to begin her refereeing
journey.
> I'm not looking for plaudits, just trying to put some meat on
the bones of what I had tried so appallingly badly to say in the
first place
>
--- End Quote ---
Jr's first kit was hilarious. He did the miniwhistler course
just before his 11th birthday, refereed his first game at 11
years and 5 days old - wore a mens shirt that nearly reached his
knees with the sleeves rolled up about 20 times to just reach
his wrists and a pair of mens shorts that did in fact go over
his knees and were like a pair of knickerbockers on him! He
looked so tiny despite actually being taller than me by then!
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