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#Post#: 64782--------------------------------------------------
select group referees 2023/24
DIR By: referee12
Date: May 29, 2023, 4:38 am
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our referees for next season minus Marriner poss inc Robert
madley
Referee
Michael Oliver
Anthony Taylor
Paul Tierney
Simon Hooper
Robert Jones
Stuart Attwell
Andy Madley
Peter Bankes
David Coote
Craig Pawson
John Brooks
Darren England
Jarred Gillett
Michael Salisbury
Chris Kavanagh
Thomas Bramall
Tony Harrington
Graham Scott
Darren Bond
Tim Robinson
Robert Madley
Josh Smith
#Post#: 64786--------------------------------------------------
Re: select group referees 2023/24
DIR By: Hertsref123
Date: May 29, 2023, 5:31 am
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Just to clarify, this list is speculation, the finalised list
for next season hasn't been announced yet.
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Re: select group referees 2023/24
DIR By: referee12
Date: June 28, 2023, 1:36 pm
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I think our list for next season is now finalised
Michael Oliver
Anthony Taylor
Paul Tierney
Simon Hooper
Robert Jones
Stuart Attwell
Andy Madley
Peter Bankes
David Coote
Craig Pawson
John Brooks
Darren England
Jarred Gillett
Michael Salisbury
Chris Kavanagh
Thomas Bramall
Tony Harrington
Graham Scott
Darren Bond
Tim Robinson
robinson and bond were promoted so no promo for Robert madley so
looks as though he's staying at select group 2 level
(Removed Josh Smith as he was not promoted).
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Re: select group referees 2023/24
DIR By: keith h
Date: July 2, 2023, 2:19 pm
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What's the point if you only THINK the list is finalised
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Re: select group referees 2023/24
DIR By: Whistleblower
Date: July 2, 2023, 4:44 pm
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I interpret 'think' as believe and am grateful to have the SG1
for next season listed so conveniently. If, indeed there are to
be additions or subtractions ( which I do not for a moment
imagine there will be ) then I will duly take note of them
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Re: select group referees 2023/24
DIR By: Whistleblower
Date: July 3, 2023, 9:04 am
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--- Quote from: referee12 link ---
>
> I think our list for next season is now finalised
>
> Michael Oliver
> Anthony Taylor
> Paul Tierney
> Simon Hooper
> Robert Jones
> Stuart Attwell
> Andy Madley
> Peter Bankes
> David Coote
> Craig Pawson
> John Brooks
> Darren England
> Jarred Gillett
> Michael Salisbury
> Chris Kavanagh
> Thomas Bramall
> Tony Harrington
> Graham Scott
> Darren Bond
> Tim Robinson
>
> robinson and bond were promoted so no promo for Robert madley
so looks as though he's staying at select group 2 level
>
> (Removed Josh Smith as he was not promoted).
>
--- End Quote ---
Considering some of the talented and experienced cohorts of top
referees in years past, I wouldn't say this is a particularly
strong line up. Two excellent referees ( Oliver and Taylor )
four or five pretty good ones ( I would include Pawson, Gillett
and Hooper in that number ) ) and then quite a few journeymen
and a few who, with experience, might perhaps follow in Oliver
and Taylor's footsteps but nothing looking too certain about
that yet.
I hope this isn't a harsh judgement but I really don't think
it's a Group particularly strong in depth.
#Post#: 65659--------------------------------------------------
Re: select group referees 2023/24
DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
Date: July 9, 2023, 6:17 am
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--- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
>
> [quote author=referee12 link=topic=4953.msg65543#msg65543
date=1687977415]
> I think our list for next season is now finalised
>
> Michael Oliver
> Anthony Taylor
> Paul Tierney
> Simon Hooper
> Robert Jones
> Stuart Attwell
> Andy Madley
> Peter Bankes
> David Coote
> Craig Pawson
> John Brooks
> Darren England
> Jarred Gillett
> Michael Salisbury
> Chris Kavanagh
> Thomas Bramall
> Tony Harrington
> Graham Scott
> Darren Bond
> Tim Robinson
>
> robinson and bond were promoted so no promo for Robert madley
so looks as though he's staying at select group 2 level
>
> (Removed Josh Smith as he was not promoted).
>
--- End Quote ---
Considering some of the talented and experienced cohorts of top
referees in years past, I wouldn't say this is a particularly
strong line up. Two excellent referees ( Oliver and Taylor )
four or five pretty good ones ( I would include Pawson, Gillett
and Hooper in that number ) ) and then quite a few journeymen
and a few who, with experience, might perhaps follow in Oliver
and Taylor's footsteps but nothing looking too certain about
that yet.
I hope this isn't a harsh judgement but I really don't think
it's a Group particularly strong in depth.
[/quote]
And looking at what is in SG2 at present, there isn’t much in
there to set the world alight either.
Only Josh Smith and Bobby Madley have had PL experience.
#Post#: 65672--------------------------------------------------
Re: select group referees 2023/24
DIR By: referee12
Date: July 12, 2023, 4:20 am
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well at least all of them will either be in the middle 4th
official or on var duty
#Post#: 65677--------------------------------------------------
Re: select group referees 2023/24
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: July 14, 2023, 5:42 am
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--- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
>
> [quote author=referee12 link=topic=4953.msg65543#msg65543
date=1687977415]
> I think our list for next season is now finalised
>
> Michael Oliver
> Anthony Taylor
> Paul Tierney
> Simon Hooper
> Robert Jones
> Stuart Attwell
> Andy Madley
> Peter Bankes
> David Coote
> Craig Pawson
> John Brooks
> Darren England
> Jarred Gillett
> Michael Salisbury
> Chris Kavanagh
> Thomas Bramall
> Tony Harrington
> Graham Scott
> Darren Bond
> Tim Robinson
>
> robinson and bond were promoted so no promo for Robert madley
so looks as though he's staying at select group 2 level
>
> (Removed Josh Smith as he was not promoted).
>
--- End Quote ---
Considering some of the talented and experienced cohorts of top
referees in years past, I wouldn't say this is a particularly
strong line up. Two excellent referees ( Oliver and Taylor )
four or five pretty good ones ( I would include Pawson, Gillett
and Hooper in that number ) ) and then quite a few journeymen
and a few who, with experience, might perhaps follow in Oliver
and Taylor's footsteps but nothing looking too certain about
that yet.
I hope this isn't a harsh judgement but I really don't think
it's a Group particularly strong in depth.
[/quote]
I'm sure quite a few posters would agree with you.
I guess one question that could be asked is how it compares to a
few years ago. The age profile has come down quite a bit - I
think Taylor is now 2nd oldest at 44. Of course that means quite
a lot of experience has been lost but it means most referees
should either be around their peak or, I would say in a lot of
cases, developing towards it. Obviously how high that peak will
be can be debated for some (!) but there are some referees who
have been promoted in the last few years who seem to have quite
a bit of promise (Jones, England, Gillett, Brooks.)
Hopefully Harrington will make a return on-field next season -
I'm not sure if he's refereed any pre-season games yet? Are we
expecting any retired (or indeed EFL) referees to be used as
VARs?
#Post#: 65708--------------------------------------------------
Re: select group referees 2023/24
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: July 16, 2023, 2:22 am
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It might have been posted elsewhere but Mike Dean is leaving
PGMOL so won't be a VAR next season -
HTML https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12302461/Mike-Dean-QUITS-role-VAR-official-following-just-one-season-role.html<br
/>
I wonder if he'll do anything for the media?
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