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Re: SG1 Talk
DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
Date: May 12, 2023, 6:05 pm
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Gone are the days of the Southern brigade we had of Styles,
Bennett, Probert, East and of course Barry Knight. 😳
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Re: SG1 Talk
DIR By: DBLTFC
Date: May 13, 2023, 12:20 am
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--- Quote from: bmb link ---
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> [quote author=Readingfan link=topic=4889.msg63957#msg63957
date=1683895937]
> [quote author=bmb link=topic=4889.msg63939#msg63939
date=1683829470]
> [quote author=PhiltheRef link=topic=4889.msg63938#msg63938
date=1683821780]
>
> Surely it's most important that the best officials form SG1
irrespective of where they're from?
>
--- End Quote ---
Which is exactly why the postcode ruling was binned 5/6 years
ago now!
[/quote]
Out of interest, has this made any practical difference? Are
there many examples of referees in the PL or EFL refereeing
teams they wouldn't have previously?
[/quote]
Keith Stroud has refereed AFCB where he couldn't before because
of BH postcode.
[/quote]
Keith Stroud (and Stuart Attwell) I’m fairly certain couldn’t do
Luton. But they’ve both done Watford matches, the former at
least once this season. Was Attwell not the ref for the infamous
“ghost goal” many years ago?
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Re: SG1 Talk
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: May 13, 2023, 1:46 am
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--- Quote from: DBLTFC link ---
>
> [quote author=bmb link=topic=4889.msg63965#msg63965
date=1683912420]
> [quote author=Readingfan link=topic=4889.msg63957#msg63957
date=1683895937]
> [quote author=bmb link=topic=4889.msg63939#msg63939
date=1683829470]
> [quote author=PhiltheRef link=topic=4889.msg63938#msg63938
date=1683821780]
>
> Surely it's most important that the best officials form SG1
irrespective of where they're from?
>
--- End Quote ---
Which is exactly why the postcode ruling was binned 5/6 years
ago now!
[/quote]
Out of interest, has this made any practical difference? Are
there many examples of referees in the PL or EFL refereeing
teams they wouldn't have previously?
[/quote]
Keith Stroud has refereed AFCB where he couldn't before because
of BH postcode.
[/quote]
Keith Stroud (and Stuart Attwell) I’m fairly certain couldn’t do
Luton. But they’ve both done Watford matches, the former at
least once this season. Was Attwell not the ref for the infamous
“ghost goal” many years ago?
[/quote]
Yes, Attwell refereed Watford V Reading in 2008.
I remember Stroud refereeing Reading V Bournemouth in 2015. I'm
not sure when the postcode rule was changed? Was it after Kevin
Friend was taken off Stoke V Spurs when Leicester were going for
the title?
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Re: SG1 Talk
DIR By: Leggy
Date: May 13, 2023, 4:42 am
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--- Quote from: rustyref link ---
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> [quote author=Beacon link=topic=4889.msg63968#msg63968
date=1683916907]
> The lack of Southern referees really does matter. How can our
capital city not have had a SG1/ prem league referee for years.
When was the last one? Alf Buksh, Phil Don and Tony Ward?
Norfolk I don’t think has had a football league referee since
Jim Borrett. How can it be justified that we repeatedly
transport refs all over the country for fourth official duties,
which is shameful ecologically. Statistically the level of
inequity is bewildering. Role models matter and the North/South
split can not be justified. There must be bias in the system
whether intentional or not and this is wrong.
>
--- End Quote ---
Think that is just the nature of London. There are lots of
senior officials that refereed in London, but moved elsewhere
before they made it to the top levels. Lots of people move to
London when they are young but then move away when they get a
bit older and are looking to settle down and start a family,
either because they don't want their kids being brought up in
London schools or they just can't afford to buy a house there.
It is also inherently harder to be a senior referee in London as
most people work in the city or West End and therefore can't
drive to work. Elsewhere in the country referees will drive
straight to games from work, that isn't an option for most
London based referees, and I know from my own experience it was
a real problem. I'd have to leave work very early to go home to
get the car to then go to the game.
[/quote]
The standard of football that officials have to referee is also
a factor.
As does having a job with a County FA or the FA.
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Re: SG1 Talk
DIR By: bmb
Date: May 13, 2023, 5:09 am
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--- Quote from: DBLTFC link ---
>
> Keith Stroud (and Stuart Attwell) I’m fairly certain couldn’t
do Luton. But they’ve both done Watford matches, the former at
least once this season. Was Attwell not the ref for the infamous
“ghost goal” many years ago?
>
--- End Quote ---
Keith Stroud supports Luton
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Re: SG1 Talk
DIR By: bmb
Date: May 13, 2023, 5:17 am
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--- Quote from: Readingfan link ---
>
> I remember Stroud refereeing Reading V Bournemouth in 2015.
>
--- End Quote ---
I think that was after he moved from a BH postcode to a SO
postcode. That was what always made me laugh about the postcode
rule - you could live 60/70 miles away from AFCB and still have
a BH postcode so couldn't referee AFCB or you could live 5/10
miles in the other direction and have an SO one and therefore
could!
I can't remember which season it was actually scrapped but it is
at least 5/6 years ago.
#Post#: 64015--------------------------------------------------
Re: SG1 Talk
DIR By: Hendo
Date: May 14, 2023, 12:45 am
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--- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
>
> Gone are the days of the Southern brigade we had of Styles,
Bennett, Probert, East and of course Barry Knight. 😳
>
--- End Quote ---
One of life’s eternal great mysteries - how on earth did Barry
Knight make it to the SG??? 😱 😱😱
If I recall he was promoted at the same time as Barber and
Bennett, who both made a success of their elevated status.
#Post#: 64025--------------------------------------------------
Re: SG1 Talk
DIR By: takethejag
Date: May 14, 2023, 5:57 am
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--- Quote from: Hendo link ---
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> [quote author=TheThingFromLewes
link=topic=4889.msg63976#msg63976 date=1683932701]
> Gone are the days of the Southern brigade we had of Styles,
Bennett, Probert, East and of course Barry Knight. 😳
>
--- End Quote ---
One of life’s eternal great mysteries - how on earth did Barry
Knight make it to the SG??? 😱 😱😱
If I recall he was promoted at the same time as Barber and
Bennett, who both made a success of their elevated status.
[/quote]
Quite, the mention of Barry Knight (and previously Mark Halsey)
doesn't exactly augment the argument that SG1 is somewhat at a
loss due the current dearth of London/Southern based refs. At
least in the case of Halsey he buggered off oop North!
#Post#: 64028--------------------------------------------------
Re: SG1 Talk
DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
Date: May 14, 2023, 6:19 am
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--- Quote from: takethejag link ---
>
> [quote author=Hendo link=topic=4889.msg64015#msg64015
date=1684043128]
> [quote author=TheThingFromLewes
link=topic=4889.msg63976#msg63976 date=1683932701]
> Gone are the days of the Southern brigade we had of Styles,
Bennett, Probert, East and of course Barry Knight. 😳
>
--- End Quote ---
One of life’s eternal great mysteries - how on earth did Barry
Knight make it to the SG??? 😱 😱😱
If I recall he was promoted at the same time as Barber and
Bennett, who both made a success of their elevated status.
[/quote]
Quite, the mention of Barry Knight (and previously Mark Halsey)
doesn't exactly augment the argument that SG1 is somewhat at a
loss due the current dearth of London/Southern based refs. At
least in the case of Halsey he buggered off oop North!
[/quote]
Andy D’Urso from Billericay. I’ll never forget his famous game
Fulham v Middlesbrough.
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Re: SG1 Talk
DIR By: takethejag
Date: May 14, 2023, 7:13 am
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--- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
>
> [quote author=takethejag link=topic=4889.msg64025#msg64025
date=1684061822]
> [quote author=Hendo link=topic=4889.msg64015#msg64015
date=1684043128]
> [quote author=TheThingFromLewes
link=topic=4889.msg63976#msg63976 date=1683932701]
> Gone are the days of the Southern brigade we had of Styles,
Bennett, Probert, East and of course Barry Knight. 😳
>
--- End Quote ---
One of life’s eternal great mysteries - how on earth did Barry
Knight make it to the SG??? 😱 😱😱
If I recall he was promoted at the same time as Barber and
Bennett, who both made a success of their elevated status.
[/quote]
Quite, the mention of Barry Knight (and previously Mark Halsey)
doesn't exactly augment the argument that SG1 is somewhat at a
loss due the current dearth of London/Southern based refs. At
least in the case of Halsey he buggered off oop North!
[/quote]
Andy D’Urso from Billericay. I’ll never forget his famous game
Fulham v Middlesbrough.
[/quote]
His 0.91 of a game after that other refereeing great Lee 'Phil
Mitchell' Mason limped off after 8 minutes. Thank god for goal
line technology
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