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Re: Stoke v West Brom - Andy Woolmer
DIR By: Leggy
Date: April 19, 2023, 12:34 pm
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> [quote author=bmb link=topic=4795.msg63012#msg63012
date=1681903923]
> [quote author=D.B_ref link=topic=4795.msg63006#msg63006
date=1681899781]
> I found it quite interesting that Andy Woolmer seemed to put
his red and yellow out the same notebook! I’ve not seen that at
quite a high level before. It looked like he had one red and one
yellow in the same notebook. I’ve seen some referees have a
notebook with two yellow cards in but never have I seen it that
way at such a high level.
>
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Danny Makkelie had both cards in his notebook until quite
recently. I think he's gone back to having them in separate
pockets again now but only the last month or so.
[/quote]
If I were officiating I’d use Simon Hoopers’ style of cards,
one with the notebook inside with the cover all yellow.
However, I’m not sure where he gets his from.
[/quote]
The long lamented A&H used to sell a notebook with a yellow card
on both sides of the inside front cover and a red on on both
sides of the inside back cover. You could then use the notebook
to record the caution / sending off and then use the appropriate
inside cover to show the card. Simples.
Edited to fix the quote thingamajigga, bmb
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Re: Stoke v West Brom - Andy Woolmer
DIR By: nemesis
Date: April 20, 2023, 2:08 pm
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> [quote author=nemesis link=topic=4795.msg63004#msg63004
date=1681899170]
> [quote author=rustyref link=topic=4795.msg62974#msg62974
date=1681834332]
> [quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=4795.msg62968#msg62968
date=1681830168]
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HTML https://twitter.com/secondtierpod/status/1647982569193889792
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> Dear Dear. Dreadful refereeing. So if the ball hits you its a
YC? Surely everyone would just let it hit them now?
>
> Nothing from blatant time wasting.
>
> Should be two yellows for the west brom player.
>
> What exactly did the stoke player do wrong?
>
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Are you seriously asking that question? He's thrown the ball at
a player not looking at him, not with any force so it isn't
violent conduct, but he then does it again. Once he might get
away with, twice he is really asking for trouble, and doing that
when already on a yellow card is just sheer stupidity.
[/quote]
He didn't throw it AT him, he threw it TO him, twice. Too often
teams get away with blatant time wasting with no attempt by the
referee to deal with it.
[/quote]
No, he threw it at him, I did say without any force but I don't
see how there can be any doubt that it was thrown at him, twice,
and on both occasions the opponent wasn't looking. Had he
rolled it to his feet and he then didn't pick the ball up then I
agree, you are then in the grounds of cautioning for delaying
the restart, but he didn't. He tried to take the law into his
own hands and it backfired on him, he only has himself to blame.
[/quote]
So do you think he threw it at/to him because he wanted to hit
him (gently) with it or so he could get on with the game ? And
the reason the opponent wasn't looking the second time was
because he was too busy feigning a pathetic potential injury
after having the ball bounce gently off him. Which player was
the greater afront to the integrity of the game? I know which I
think and I think anyone who thinks otherwise, including
presumably the way past his best Andy Woolmer, is lacking in
empathy for the game.
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Re: Stoke v West Brom - Andy Woolmer
DIR By: rustyref
Date: April 20, 2023, 2:54 pm
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> [quote author=rustyref link=topic=4795.msg63031#msg63031
date=1681921970]
> [quote author=nemesis link=topic=4795.msg63004#msg63004
date=1681899170]
> [quote author=rustyref link=topic=4795.msg62974#msg62974
date=1681834332]
> [quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=4795.msg62968#msg62968
date=1681830168]
>
HTML https://twitter.com/secondtierpod/status/1647982569193889792
>
> Dear Dear. Dreadful refereeing. So if the ball hits you its a
YC? Surely everyone would just let it hit them now?
>
> Nothing from blatant time wasting.
>
> Should be two yellows for the west brom player.
>
> What exactly did the stoke player do wrong?
>
--- End Quote ---
Are you seriously asking that question? He's thrown the ball at
a player not looking at him, not with any force so it isn't
violent conduct, but he then does it again. Once he might get
away with, twice he is really asking for trouble, and doing that
when already on a yellow card is just sheer stupidity.
[/quote]
He didn't throw it AT him, he threw it TO him, twice. Too often
teams get away with blatant time wasting with no attempt by the
referee to deal with it.
[/quote]
No, he threw it at him, I did say without any force but I don't
see how there can be any doubt that it was thrown at him, twice,
and on both occasions the opponent wasn't looking. Had he
rolled it to his feet and he then didn't pick the ball up then I
agree, you are then in the grounds of cautioning for delaying
the restart, but he didn't. He tried to take the law into his
own hands and it backfired on him, he only has himself to blame.
[/quote]
So do you think he threw it at/to him because he wanted to hit
him (gently) with it or so he could get on with the game ? And
the reason the opponent wasn't looking the second time was
because he was too busy feigning a pathetic potential injury
after having the ball bounce gently off him. Which player was
the greater afront to the integrity of the game? I know which I
think and I think anyone who thinks otherwise, including
presumably the way past his best Andy Woolmer, is lacking in
empathy for the game.
[/quote]
He threw it at him to get a reaction, especially the second
time. In any case, it appears he wasn't sent off for the ball
throwing, rather what he said to the referee afterwards.
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