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#Post#: 62997--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stoke v West Brom - Andy Woolmer
DIR By: jacksamuel21
Date: April 18, 2023, 5:27 pm
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--- Quote from: MKRef link ---
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> I think the second Pearson card was for dissent. Furlong let
the ball hit him twice, Woolmer spoke to Pearson, so Furlong
trudged to the halfway line, then strolled back to take the
throw - while Pearson gave Woolmer another ear bashing resulting
in the second yellow & red - all a bit of a farce. Could have
been handled so much better by a stronger, more proactive ref.
>
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Agree simply booking the West Brom player
#Post#: 62998--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stoke v West Brom - Andy Woolmer
DIR By: jacksamuel21
Date: April 18, 2023, 5:28 pm
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--- Quote from: rustyref link ---
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> [quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=4795.msg62968#msg62968
date=1681830168]
>
HTML https://twitter.com/secondtierpod/status/1647982569193889792
>
> Dear Dear. Dreadful refereeing. So if the ball hits you its a
YC? Surely everyone would just let it hit them now?
>
> Nothing from blatant time wasting.
>
> Should be two yellows for the west brom player.
>
> What exactly did the stoke player do wrong?
>
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Are you seriously asking that question? He's thrown the ball at
a player not looking at him, not with any force so it isn't
violent conduct, but he then does it again. Once he might get
away with, twice he is really asking for trouble, and doing that
when already on a yellow card is just sheer stupidity.
[/quote]
So he is just meant to leave the ball for the West Brom player
to not come and pick it up?
Abysmal refereeing.
#Post#: 63004--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stoke v West Brom - Andy Woolmer
DIR By: nemesis
Date: April 19, 2023, 5:12 am
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--- Quote from: rustyref link ---
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> [quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=4795.msg62968#msg62968
date=1681830168]
>
HTML https://twitter.com/secondtierpod/status/1647982569193889792
>
> Dear Dear. Dreadful refereeing. So if the ball hits you its a
YC? Surely everyone would just let it hit them now?
>
> Nothing from blatant time wasting.
>
> Should be two yellows for the west brom player.
>
> What exactly did the stoke player do wrong?
>
--- End Quote ---
Are you seriously asking that question? He's thrown the ball at
a player not looking at him, not with any force so it isn't
violent conduct, but he then does it again. Once he might get
away with, twice he is really asking for trouble, and doing that
when already on a yellow card is just sheer stupidity.
[/quote]
He didn't throw it AT him, he threw it TO him, twice. Too often
teams get away with blatant time wasting with no attempt by the
referee to deal with it.
#Post#: 63006--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stoke v West Brom - Andy Woolmer
DIR By: D.B_ref
Date: April 19, 2023, 5:23 am
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I found it quite interesting that Andy Woolmer seemed to pull
his red and yellow out the same notebook! I’ve not seen that at
quite a high level before. It looked like he had one red and one
yellow in the same notebook. I’ve seen some referees have a
notebook with two yellow cards in but never have I seen it that
way at such a high level.
#Post#: 63010--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stoke v West Brom - Andy Woolmer
DIR By: nemesis
Date: April 19, 2023, 6:03 am
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--- Quote from: D.B_ref link ---
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> I found it quite interesting that Andy Woolmer seemed to put
his red and yellow out the same notebook! I’ve not seen that at
quite a high level before. It looked like he had one red and one
yellow in the same notebook. I’ve seen some referees have a
notebook with two yellow cards in but never have I seen it that
way at such a high level.
>
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Nothing high about him.
#Post#: 63012--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stoke v West Brom - Andy Woolmer
DIR By: bmb
Date: April 19, 2023, 6:32 am
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--- Quote from: D.B_ref link ---
>
> I found it quite interesting that Andy Woolmer seemed to put
his red and yellow out the same notebook! I’ve not seen that at
quite a high level before. It looked like he had one red and one
yellow in the same notebook. I’ve seen some referees have a
notebook with two yellow cards in but never have I seen it that
way at such a high level.
>
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Danny Makkelie had both cards in his notebook until quite
recently. I think he's gone back to having them in separate
pockets again now but only the last month or so.
#Post#: 63021--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stoke v West Brom - Andy Woolmer
DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
Date: April 19, 2023, 9:25 am
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--- Quote from: bmb link ---
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> [quote author=D.B_ref link=topic=4795.msg63006#msg63006
date=1681899781]
> I found it quite interesting that Andy Woolmer seemed to put
his red and yellow out the same notebook! I’ve not seen that at
quite a high level before. It looked like he had one red and one
yellow in the same notebook. I’ve seen some referees have a
notebook with two yellow cards in but never have I seen it that
way at such a high level.
>
--- End Quote ---
Danny Makkelie had both cards in his notebook until quite
recently. I think he's gone back to having them in separate
pockets again now but only the last month or so.
[/quote]
If I were officiating I’d use Simon Hoopers’ style of cards,
one with the notebook inside with the cover all yellow.
However, I’m not sure where he gets his from.
#Post#: 63022--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stoke v West Brom - Andy Woolmer
DIR By: JohnCoyle
Date: April 19, 2023, 9:31 am
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One of the few positives of being in League Two is that we
seldom get SG2 referees so we haven't had the dubious pleasure
of a visit from Andy Woolmer. The downside is that we get a lot
of Alan Young.
#Post#: 63030--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stoke v West Brom - Andy Woolmer
DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
Date: April 19, 2023, 11:12 am
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--- Quote from: JohnCoyle link ---
>
> One of the few positives of being in League Two is that we
seldom get SG2 referees so we haven't had the dubious pleasure
of a visit from Andy Woolmer. The downside is that we get a lot
of Alan Young.
>
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Alan Young doesn’t seem to get great reviews on here when he
officiates.
#Post#: 63031--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stoke v West Brom - Andy Woolmer
DIR By: rustyref
Date: April 19, 2023, 11:32 am
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--- Quote from: nemesis link ---
>
> [quote author=rustyref link=topic=4795.msg62974#msg62974
date=1681834332]
> [quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=4795.msg62968#msg62968
date=1681830168]
>
HTML https://twitter.com/secondtierpod/status/1647982569193889792
>
> Dear Dear. Dreadful refereeing. So if the ball hits you its a
YC? Surely everyone would just let it hit them now?
>
> Nothing from blatant time wasting.
>
> Should be two yellows for the west brom player.
>
> What exactly did the stoke player do wrong?
>
--- End Quote ---
Are you seriously asking that question? He's thrown the ball at
a player not looking at him, not with any force so it isn't
violent conduct, but he then does it again. Once he might get
away with, twice he is really asking for trouble, and doing that
when already on a yellow card is just sheer stupidity.
[/quote]
He didn't throw it AT him, he threw it TO him, twice. Too often
teams get away with blatant time wasting with no attempt by the
referee to deal with it.
[/quote]
No, he threw it at him, I did say without any force but I don't
see how there can be any doubt that it was thrown at him, twice,
and on both occasions the opponent wasn't looking. Had he
rolled it to his feet and he then didn't pick the ball up then I
agree, you are then in the grounds of cautioning for delaying
the restart, but he didn't. He tried to take the law into his
own hands and it backfired on him, he only has himself to blame.
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