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#Post#: 62817--------------------------------------------------
Stoke v West Brom - Andy Woolmer
DIR By: MKRef
Date: April 15, 2023, 5:00 pm
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A game that needed a strong referee, got one who struggled
throughout - random foul detection & sanctions, no
control/authority and it ended up with players taking it into
their own hands.
In the first 10 mins, he gave a corner wrongly to Stoke when
10-15 yards from play, only for an assistant to tell him to
reverse his decision to the correct one from the other side of
the pitch. That set the tone.
Too many times West Brom players nudged or backed into a Stoke
player when they were in mid air. This resulted in an injury to
Hoever, which looked like a winding from a heavy landing, soon
ran it off. But there was a serious injury to Ben Wilmot, who
landed on his neck/head. Wilmot down but Woolmer strolled over
casually before waving the medical team on - a few mins later
they were gesturing for a stretcher for Woolmer to be wagging
his finger at them. The stretcher was eventually allowed on and
Wilmot carried off with oxygen. Still waiting for assessment at
hospital.
Woolmer lost the plot from there giving soft free-kicks for
minimal contact then missing obvious heavy challenges. And did
very little about the time-wasting that saw him decide to show
Ben Pearson a second yellow for a) taking it into his own hands
by throwing the ball at Furlong twice, who just let it hit him
and bounce back to delay the restart - no sanctions for
Furlong's actions & b) dissent.
It's the third time I've seen him this year and they've all been
below par but this one was seriously concerning as he was
endangering the safety of the players with some of his decision
making, or at times, lack of it. He struggles to get around the
pitch and is too far from incidents.
The fact the managers described him as the pantomime villain and
Alex Neil saying "one of the worst refereeing performances in
senior football" summed up it.
Good luck to the Exeter and Derby players on Tuesday night,
you'll need it if he's as inept as he was today.
#Post#: 62845--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stoke v West Brom - Andy Woolmer
DIR By: Mackem ref
Date: April 16, 2023, 9:14 am
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Having only seen the highlights on itv, how on Earth does he not
penalise Asante for the clearest of fouls on Wilmott? Similarly,
the incident with Pearson near the end could easily have been
avoided if Woolmer was being more proactive - West Brom clearly
looking to run the clock down yet Woolmer seemed uninterested in
getting play restarted!
Finally, his movement around the pitch is fairly poor now. I
believe you should be able to continue refereeing at the highest
levels of the game as long as you are physically capable, but
I’m afraid Woolmer should seriously consider hanging up his
whistle at the end of this campaign.
#Post#: 62847--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stoke v West Brom - Andy Woolmer
DIR By: guest308
Date: April 16, 2023, 10:51 am
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Agreed seen twice and he's the worst referee I've seen in league
one this season by some distance.
#Post#: 62851--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stoke v West Brom - Andy Woolmer
DIR By: ryan80
Date: April 16, 2023, 11:09 am
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Woolmer has been around for many years and is very experienced
he once was a very good championship referee - seem to remember
at one point he was a postman. I understand that he is now 58
and probably like we have seen in the premier league with Graham
Scott and Andre Marriner it is probably time to hang up the
whistle and look to use his experience to mentor and train the
upcoming younger referees.
#Post#: 62859--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stoke v West Brom - Andy Woolmer
DIR By: rustyref
Date: April 16, 2023, 12:33 pm
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--- Quote from: Mackem ref link ---
>
> Finally, his movement around the pitch is fairly poor now. I
believe you should be able to continue refereeing at the highest
levels of the game as long as you are physically capable, but
I’m afraid Woolmer should seriously consider hanging up his
whistle at the end of this campaign.
>
--- End Quote ---
He must have passed the fitness test, therefore he is fit enough
for that level of football.
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Re: Stoke v West Brom - Andy Woolmer
DIR By: Ashington46
Date: April 18, 2023, 5:24 am
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Sad to read that Ben Wilmot has sustained a fracture in his
back and will miss the rest of the season. I wish him a full
recovery and hope that he is able to continue with his career
when he is 100% fit again.
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Re: Stoke v West Brom - Andy Woolmer
DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
Date: April 18, 2023, 8:34 am
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--- Quote from: ryan80 link ---
>
> Woolmer has been around for many years and is very experienced
he once was a very good championship referee - seem to remember
at one point he was a postman. I understand that he is now 58
and probably like we have seen in the premier league with Graham
Scott and Andre Marriner it is probably time to hang up the
whistle and look to use his experience to mentor and train the
upcoming younger referees.
>
--- End Quote ---
How old is Boyeson as he’s been around for ages.
We all thought when Walton retired no one could surpass that age
to officiate effectively yet Woolmer has smashed that in spades.
#Post#: 62968--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stoke v West Brom - Andy Woolmer
DIR By: jacksamuel21
Date: April 18, 2023, 10:02 am
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HTML https://twitter.com/secondtierpod/status/1647982569193889792
Dear Dear. Dreadful refereeing. So if the ball hits you its a
YC? Surely everyone would just let it hit them now?
Nothing from blatant time wasting.
Should be two yellows for the west brom player.
What exactly did the stoke player do wrong?
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Re: Stoke v West Brom - Andy Woolmer
DIR By: rustyref
Date: April 18, 2023, 11:12 am
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--- Quote from: jacksamuel21 link ---
>
>
HTML https://twitter.com/secondtierpod/status/1647982569193889792
>
> Dear Dear. Dreadful refereeing. So if the ball hits you its a
YC? Surely everyone would just let it hit them now?
>
> Nothing from blatant time wasting.
>
> Should be two yellows for the west brom player.
>
> What exactly did the stoke player do wrong?
>
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Are you seriously asking that question? He's thrown the ball at
a player not looking at him, not with any force so it isn't
violent conduct, but he then does it again. Once he might get
away with, twice he is really asking for trouble, and doing that
when already on a yellow card is just sheer stupidity.
#Post#: 62996--------------------------------------------------
Re: Stoke v West Brom - Andy Woolmer
DIR By: MKRef
Date: April 18, 2023, 5:21 pm
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I think the second Pearson card was for dissent. Furlong let the
ball hit him twice, Woolmer spoke to Pearson, so Furlong trudged
to the halfway line, then strolled back to take the throw -
while Pearson gave Woolmer another ear bashing resulting in the
second yellow & red - all a bit of a farce. Could have been
handled so much better by a stronger, more proactive ref.
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