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       #Post#: 61953--------------------------------------------------
       LOTG changes
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: March 24, 2023, 4:31 am
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       It's that time of year again!
       The LOTG changes for 2023/24 -
  HTML https://downloads.theifab.com/downloads/lotg_changes_23_24_en
       #Post#: 61955--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LOTG changes
   DIR By: takethejag
       Date: March 24, 2023, 6:52 am
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       So the law currently allows a goal to stand if the attacking
       team have more than 11 players on the pitch? If I am reading
       this correctly this is ridiculous
       I would suggest this is something Fulham should try for the rest
       of the season, but they should start with trying to make sure
       they have 11 on the pitch.
       #Post#: 61956--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LOTG changes
   DIR By: Readingfan
       Date: March 24, 2023, 7:06 am
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       --- Quote from: takethejag link ---
       >
       > So the law currently allows a goal to stand if the attacking
       team have more than 11 players on the pitch? If I am reading
       this correctly this is ridiculous
       >
       > I would suggest this is something Fulham should try for the
       rest of the season, but they should start with trying to make
       sure they have 11 on the pitch.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I guess they do not want VAR to disallow a goal because a
       substitute stepped onto the pitch just before a goal was scored.
       
       #Post#: 61958--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LOTG changes
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: March 24, 2023, 10:21 am
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       Thankfully not!
       Law 3 – The Players
       9. Goal scored with an extra person on the field of play
       Additional text
       If, after a goal is scored, the referee realises, before play
       restarts, that an extra person was on the field of play when the
       goal was scored, and that person interfered with play: (<--- the
       added text)
       • the referee must disallow the goal if the extra person was:
       · a player, substitute, substituted player, sent-off player or
       team official of the team that scored the goal; play is
       restarted with a direct free kick from the position of the extra
       person
       · an outside agent who interfered with play unless a goal
       results as outlined above in ‘Extra persons on the field of
       play’; play is restarted with a dropped ball
       • the referee must allow the goal if the extra person was:
       · a player, substitute, substituted player, sent-off player or
       team official of
       the team that conceded the goal
       · an outside agent who did not interfere with play
       Explanation
       Clarification that the referee should take action against an
       extra person on the field of play when a goal is scored only if
       the person affected the play, e.g. the Law does not expect the
       referee to penalise encroachment onto the field of play if it
       does not impact the play.
       #Post#: 61964--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LOTG changes
   DIR By: Microscopist
       Date: March 25, 2023, 5:42 am
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       Well before this, from observation and reading the exchanges on
       here it seemed to me that:
       Nobody knows what constitutes handball;
       Nobody knows why we have an offside law and how it should be
       applied;
       Nobody knows where the boundaries lie between fair play / foul
       play / a yellow card offence / a red card offence and a red card
       offence needing additional sanctions;
       Nobody knows what constitutes a stoppage in play that should
       count towards time added on at the end of a game;
       Nobody knows what VAR is for and how it should be applied.
       It's all much clearer now, except that if an additional player
       behaves as Rashford did in the Manchester derby and United score
       as a result it could still be considered, according to the
       letter of the Laws, as allowable .....
       #Post#: 61976--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LOTG changes
   DIR By: RCG
       Date: March 25, 2023, 2:32 pm
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       IFAB covering FIFA's back(side) after the WC  final, when subs
       were on the pitch prior to a goal being scored - now its ok as
       long as they "dont affect the game"
       #Post#: 61994--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LOTG changes
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: March 26, 2023, 3:52 pm
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       --- Quote from: Microscopist link ---
       >
       > Well before this, from observation and reading the exchanges
       on here it seemed to me that:
       > Nobody knows what constitutes handball;
       > Nobody knows why we have an offside law and how it should be
       applied;
       > Nobody knows where the boundaries lie between fair play / foul
       play / a yellow card offence / a red card offence and a red card
       offence needing additional sanctions;
       > Nobody knows what constitutes a stoppage in play that should
       count towards time added on at the end of a game;
       > Nobody knows what VAR is for and how it should be applied.
       >
       > It's all much clearer now, except that if an additional player
       behaves as Rashford did in the Manchester derby and United score
       as a result it could still be considered, according to the
       letter of the Laws, as allowable .....
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You are correct, nobody knows what handball is. Paul Tierney
       certainly doesn’t which nearly cost Everton relegation last year
       and cost Liverpool the title.
       But swings and roundabouts eh &#129335;&#8205;&#9794;&#65039;
       #Post#: 61998--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LOTG changes
   DIR By: flipmode
       Date: March 26, 2023, 6:50 pm
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       --- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
       >
       > You are correct, nobody knows what handball is. Paul Tierney
       certainly doesn’t which nearly cost Everton relegation last year
       and cost Liverpool the title.
       >
       > But swings and roundabouts eh &#129335;&#8205;&#9794;&#65039;
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You really think that in a season of 38 games and an
       unquantifiable amount of decisions across those games, that one,
       just one, nearly cost Everton relegation and cost Liverpool the
       title?
       I'm not sure if this is sarcasm, or that you honestly believe
       this.
       #Post#: 62001--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LOTG changes
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: March 27, 2023, 2:15 am
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       --- Quote from: flipmode link ---
       >
       > [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=4714.msg61994#msg61994
       date=1679863933]
       > You are correct, nobody knows what handball is. Paul Tierney
       certainly doesn’t which nearly cost Everton relegation last year
       and cost Liverpool the title.
       >
       > But swings and roundabouts eh &#129335;&#8205;&#9794;&#65039;
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You really think that in a season of 38 games and an
       unquantifiable amount of decisions across those games, that one,
       just one, nearly cost Everton relegation and cost Liverpool the
       title?
       I'm not sure if this is sarcasm, or that you honestly believe
       this.
       [/quote]
       I agree just pointing out for the poster I quoted’s benefit
       &#128077;
       #Post#: 62004--------------------------------------------------
       Re: LOTG changes
   DIR By: Microscopist
       Date: March 27, 2023, 6:49 am
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       How kind!
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