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Re: Lee Probert Sunderland v Luton Town.
DIR By: Acme Thunderer
Date: January 16, 2019, 5:27 am
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I saw most of the first 90 minutes of the Blackburn v Newcastle
game on BT last night, and Lee seemed to be moving well in his
normal relaxed manner. Not a great deal for him to do but what
he did was fine. Mrs AT decided that there were more important
things to watch on the News at 10pm (can't think what), so I
missed most of extra time which included a third Newcastle goal
which Mowbray thought was offside. Lee must have lasted the full
120+ minutes on a a cold evening in Blackburn when Lascells
lasted only 1/10 of that time.
#Post#: 4178--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lee Probert Sunderland v Luton Town.
DIR By: JCFC
Date: January 16, 2019, 5:55 am
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> Aren't all Southerners arrogant? [emoji41][emoji13]
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I know your heart is in Manchester, but you can't get much
further South than Sydney! :)
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Re: Lee Probert Sunderland v Luton Town.
DIR By: ajb95
Date: January 16, 2019, 7:11 am
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> [quote author=flipmode link=topic=469.msg4165#msg4165
date=1547604019]
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> Aren't all Southerners arrogant? [emoji41][emoji13]
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I know your heart is in Manchester, but you can't get much
further South than Sydney! :)
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Canberra, perhaps? Or what about Dunedin?
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Re: Lee Probert Sunderland v Luton Town.
DIR By: Ashington46
Date: January 16, 2019, 7:41 am
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--- Quote from: Acme Thunderer link ---
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> I saw most of the first 90 minutes of the Blackburn v
Newcastle game on BT last night, and Lee seemed to be moving
well in his normal relaxed manner. Not a great deal for him to
do but what he did was fine. Mrs AT decided that there were more
important things to watch on the News at 10pm (can't think
what), so I missed most of extra time which included a third
Newcastle goal which Mowbray thought was offside. Lee must have
lasted the full 120+ minutes on a a cold evening in Blackburn
when Lascells lasted only 1/10 of that time.
>
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It was offside, it wasn't given, therefore, no option but to get
on with the game ---just like we have done for years. Shame for
Blackburn, lucky for Newcastle but that is football ---at the
moment! ;D
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Re: Lee Probert Sunderland v Luton Town.
DIR By: guest18
Date: January 16, 2019, 8:10 am
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--- Quote from: Acme Thunderer link ---
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> I saw most of the first 90 minutes of the Blackburn v
Newcastle game on BT last night, and Lee seemed to be moving
well in his normal relaxed manner. Not a great deal for him to
do but what he did was fine. Mrs AT decided that there were more
important things to watch on the News at 10pm (can't think
what), so I missed most of extra time which included a third
Newcastle goal which Mowbray thought was offside. Lee must have
lasted the full 120+ minutes on a a cold evening in Blackburn
when Lascells lasted only 1/10 of that time.
>
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I don’t think Mowbray thought it was offside! He knew for
certain. In fact the scorer was so far offside earlier in the
move that he could have been sat with the crowd behind the goal,
and he never regained an onside position. His sheepish glance
towards the line was akin to the batsman who quickly turns
towards the slips when he knows he’s nicked one. Probert was
badly let down in this instance by Halliday in what was a decent
performance by him
What Mowbray did find odd was the absence of VAR in the replay
when it had been available in the first game and likened it to
only being used in the first half of a game.
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Re: Lee Probert Sunderland v Luton Town.
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: January 16, 2019, 8:55 am
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> [quote author=Acme Thunderer link=topic=469.msg4176#msg4176
date=1547638062]
> I saw most of the first 90 minutes of the Blackburn v
Newcastle game on BT last night, and Lee seemed to be moving
well in his normal relaxed manner. Not a great deal for him to
do but what he did was fine. Mrs AT decided that there were more
important things to watch on the News at 10pm (can't think
what), so I missed most of extra time which included a third
Newcastle goal which Mowbray thought was offside. Lee must have
lasted the full 120+ minutes on a a cold evening in Blackburn
when Lascells lasted only 1/10 of that time.
>
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I don’t think Mowbray thought it was offside! He knew for
certain. In fact the scorer was so far offside earlier in the
move that he could have been sat with the crowd behind the goal,
and he never regained an onside position. His sheepish glance
towards the line was akin to the batsman who quickly turns
towards the slips when he knows he’s nicked one. Probert was
badly let down in this instance by Halliday in what was a decent
performance by him
What Mowbray did find odd was the absence of VAR in the replay
when it had been available in the first game and likened it to
only being used in the first half of a game.
[/quote]
They used VAR in the League Cup in a Championship ground last
month and will be using it in a League 1 ground next week, so
why couldn't/didn't they use VAR at Blackburn last night,
especially considering the limited number of fixtures being
played?
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Re: Lee Probert Sunderland v Luton Town.
DIR By: Acme Thunderer
Date: January 16, 2019, 8:57 am
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--- Quote from: doowe link ---
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> [quote author=Acme Thunderer link=topic=469.msg4176#msg4176
date=1547638062]
> I saw most of the first 90 minutes of the Blackburn v
Newcastle game on BT last night, and Lee seemed to be moving
well in his normal relaxed manner. Not a great deal for him to
do but what he did was fine. Mrs AT decided that there were more
important things to watch on the News at 10pm (can't think
what), so I missed most of extra time which included a third
Newcastle goal which Mowbray thought was offside. Lee must have
lasted the full 120+ minutes on a a cold evening in Blackburn
when Lascells lasted only 1/10 of that time.
>
--- End Quote ---
I don’t think Mowbray thought it was offside! He knew for
certain. In fact the scorer was so far offside earlier in the
move that he could have been sat with the crowd behind the goal,
and he never regained an onside position. His sheepish glance
towards the line was akin to the batsman who quickly turns
towards the slips when he knows he’s nicked one. Probert was
badly let down in this instance by Halliday in what was a decent
performance by him
What Mowbray did find odd was the absence of VAR in the replay
when it had been available in the first game and likened it to
only being used in the first half of a game.
[/quote]
I agree with you about the lack of use of VAR in this replay.
However, there is a clip of the incident on BBC Football News
which suggests that the decision not to give offside was
marginal but not definitely incorrect. Yes, the scorer was
ambling back from an offside position but that was when the ball
was being contested in midfield, and by the time the shot came
in which he followed up on, the scorer was imo level with a
defender, and the goal was therefore good. And how often do we
see a scorer look at the AR, hoping no doubt that the flag will
stay down? If the goal had been disallowed, I'm sure we would
have heard from the Newcastle camp by now, and if VAR had been
available, I suspect the goal would have stood as not being a
clear and obvious error.
#Post#: 4188--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lee Probert Sunderland v Luton Town.
DIR By: guest18
Date: January 16, 2019, 11:04 am
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We will have to agree to disagree AT. I watched the whole game
and several replays on tv and at no time did the scorer become
level before the first shot (badly dealt with by the keeper) was
made. I know it’s not the best argument but the commentator and
all the pundits were unanimous that the goal should have been
disallowed
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