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       #Post#: 4031--------------------------------------------------
       Lee Probert Sunderland v Luton Town.
   DIR By: robbieg
       Date: January 12, 2019, 1:30 pm
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       A perfectly good game of football played by two committed teams
       who tried to entertain a 37000 crowd which was spoiled by a
       totally incompetent performance from an experienced referee who
       spent the whole ninety plus minutes on a one man mission to show
       everyone that League One was far beneath his level.
       As a Sunderland fan, the RC given to the Luton player was
       totally unjustified and fans of both sides are tonight searching
       for the address to send postcards guessing at his decisions.
       For goodness sake please don't let him referee another Football
       League fixture and keep him in the Premier League as far away as
       possible from attempting and succeeding in ruining a good game
       of football between two honest teams.
       #Post#: 4034--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lee Probert Sunderland v Luton Town."I'm a Select Group
       referee.Get me out of here!!!!!"
   DIR By: guest4
       Date: January 12, 2019, 4:33 pm
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       Lee probert spent a vast amount of time on the football league
       returning from injury , his performances were excellent and he
       is the last referee who thinks these matches are beneath him.
       Lee probert is welcome at home park anytime .
       #Post#: 4035--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lee Probert Sunderland v Luton Town.
   DIR By: guest4
       Date: January 12, 2019, 4:35 pm
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       The only edit was to your title .
       Sorry not acceptable.
       #Post#: 4037--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lee Probert Sunderland v Luton Town.
   DIR By: robbieg
       Date: January 12, 2019, 4:44 pm
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       --- Quote from: Plym-Nick link ---
       >
       > The only edit was to your title .
       > Sorry not acceptable.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       OK fair enough with the title.On reflection it wasn't probably
       the wisest of titles and I consider myself suitably rebuked but
       as far as his performance today goes then 37791 people cannot
       all be wrong.
       His performance today for BOTH sides was totally unacceptable
       for someone with his experience, and as a Sunderland fan I hope
       Luton appeal the red card given to their player and it is
       overturned.
       We can all have a bad day at the office, but LP really does
       need to take a long and hard look at his performance today.
       
       
       #Post#: 4038--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lee Probert Sunderland v Luton Town.
   DIR By: AFAref
       Date: January 12, 2019, 4:44 pm
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       1) If nothing happened for the Luton red card then why did one
       of your players go sprinting towards the referee as soon as both
       players ended up on the floor and another signal an elbow
       motion?
       2) Is there any referee you do like?
       #Post#: 4039--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lee Probert Sunderland v Luton Town.
   DIR By: robbieg
       Date: January 12, 2019, 4:56 pm
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       Yes I love Geoff Eltringham and David Webb as well as Michael,
       Oliver, Lee Probert and Mike Dean, the latter two at least
       having the courage to stand in front of a TV camera at games
       involving my side when explaining contentious decisions.
       Please can you elaborate on refs I have constantly criticised
       over the time I have been on this forum ? I only post on an
       occasional basis.
       I take it you don't wish to make further comment how LP sent
       off Chris Maguire for the same reasons you accuse my player of
       doing.
       Double standards or selective sight ? You choose.
       #Post#: 4040--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lee Probert Sunderland v Luton Town.
   DIR By: robbieg
       Date: January 12, 2019, 5:05 pm
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       --- Quote from: AFAref link ---
       >
       > 1) If nothing happened for the Luton red card then why did one
       of your players go sprinting towards the referee as soon as both
       players ended up on the floor and another signal an elbow
       motion?
       >
       > 2) Is there any referee you do like?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Well I have trawled through the thirty posts I have made AFAref
       and have made both good and negative comments.I have mentioned
       about good NL refs I have seen this season, but if you can prove
       otherwise that I haven't made any positive contribution and
       comment at all then please feel free to respond.
       #Post#: 4041--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lee Probert Sunderland v Luton Town.
   DIR By: AFAref
       Date: January 12, 2019, 5:06 pm
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       "As a Sunderland fan, the RC given to the Luton player was
       totally unjustified". "I hope Luton appeal the red card given to
       their player and it is overturned"
       I merely state that as the players fall to the ground, a
       Sunderland player sprints straight to the referee and another
       motions a swinging arm. I would therefore suggest that Mr
       Probert has seen said incident and sent said Luton player from
       the Field Of Play for Violent Conduct.
       I think it's quite clear that the Sunderland player that was
       playing hopscotch on the Luton players chest, in a clear sight
       of vision of Mr Probert, was always going to get a red card. If
       you think that wasn't a red card then wow.
       #Post#: 4042--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lee Probert Sunderland v Luton Town.
   DIR By: robbieg
       Date: January 12, 2019, 5:15 pm
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       --- Quote from: AFAref link ---
       >
       > "As a Sunderland fan, the RC given to the Luton player was
       totally unjustified". "I hope Luton appeal the red card given to
       their player and it is overturned"
       >
       > I merely state that as the players fall to the ground, a
       Sunderland player sprints straight to the referee and another
       motions a swinging arm. I would therefore suggest that Mr
       Probert has seen said incident and sent said Luton player from
       the Field Of Play for Violent Conduct.
       >
       > I think it's quite clear that the Sunderland player that was
       playing hopscotch on the Luton players chest, in a clear sight
       of vision of Mr Probert, was always going to get a red card. If
       you think that wasn't a red card then wow.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Perhaps I didn't make it clear enough.Seeing it back an hour or
       so ago then yes I agree it was a red [ although my manager says
       we will appeal], however the incident took place, the melee
       ended and the player was back into position to defend the Luton
       free kick.The referee then spoke to several Luton players,
       booking one of them  and THEN called Maguire back and issued the
       RC.How bad does that look ? What takes precedence the award of
       the RC or the YC.You are a ref I am not.
       I am only asking a polite question.
       #Post#: 4043--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lee Probert Sunderland v Luton Town.
   DIR By: AFAref
       Date: January 12, 2019, 5:20 pm
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       I agree, that if this was the instance (highlights didn't show),
       the Red Card should be awarded first in an ideal world.
       However having been in the position where I knew exactly the
       player I was sending off, but couldn't see the number of a
       player I was going to caution, I have cautioned first and then
       sent the other player off (and on more than one occasion too!)
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