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$103k damages for a reckless tackle!
DIR By: bmb
Date: March 13, 2023, 11:03 pm
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What do people think about this?
#Post#: 61400--------------------------------------------------
Re: $103k damages for a reckless tackle!
DIR By: Seagull
Date: March 14, 2023, 6:44 am
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Interesting article bmb. I recall that occasionally, we would
discuss at RA Branch Meetings the matter of whether Referees
were adequately insured against being sued by a player or club
for alleged negligence, for example, playing a game where the
pitch conditions were doubtful and a player being injured or a
player alleging that a referee failed to safeguard him
adequately. Maybe clubs should have Liability Insurance if they
don't already?
#Post#: 61405--------------------------------------------------
Re: $103k damages for a reckless tackle!
DIR By: aaa
Date: March 14, 2023, 8:01 am
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--- Quote from: Seagull link ---
>
> Interesting article bmb. I recall that occasionally, we would
discuss at RA Branch Meetings the matter of whether Referees
were adequately insured against being sued by a player or club
for alleged negligence, for example, playing a game where the
pitch conditions were doubtful and a player being injured or a
player alleging that a referee failed to safeguard him
adequately. Maybe clubs should have Liability Insurance if they
don't already?
>
--- End Quote ---
Under Law 5, match officials are covered and cannot be held
liable.
7. Liability of Match Officials
A referee or other match official is not held liable for:
any kind of injury suffered by a player, official or
spectator
any damage to property of any kind
any other loss suffered by any individual, club, company,
association or other body, which is due or which may be due to
any decision taken under the terms of the Laws of the Game or in
respect of the normal procedures required to hold, play and
control a match.
Such decisions may include a decision:
that the condition of the field of play or its surrounds or
that the weather conditions are such as to allow or not to allow
a match to take place
to abandon a match for whatever reason
as to the suitability of the field equipment and ball used
during a match
to stop or not to stop a match due to spectator interference
or any problem in spectator areas
to stop or not to stop play to allow an injured player to be
removed from the field of play for treatment
to require an injured player to be removed from the field of
play for treatment
to allow or not to allow a player to wear certain clothing
or equipment
where the referee has the authority, to allow or not to
allow any persons (including team or stadium officials, security
officers, photographers or other media representatives) to be
present in the vicinity of the field of play
any other decision taken in accordance with the Laws of the
Game or in conformity with their duties under the terms of FIFA,
confederation, national football association or competition
rules or regulations under which the match is played.
#Post#: 61406--------------------------------------------------
Re: $103k damages for a reckless tackle!
DIR By: bmb
Date: March 14, 2023, 8:11 am
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--- Quote from: Seagull link ---
>
> Interesting article bmb. I recall that occasionally, we would
discuss at RA Branch Meetings the matter of whether Referees
were adequately insured against being sued by a player or club
for alleged negligence, for example, playing a game where the
pitch conditions were doubtful and a player being injured or a
player alleging that a referee failed to safeguard him
adequately. Maybe clubs should have Liability Insurance if they
don't already?
>
--- End Quote ---
I would have thought that clubs are duty bound to have liability
insurance.
I think it sets a dangerous precedent personally, particularly
in a scenario where a player has not set out with the intent to
injure an opponent - yes I know intent doesn't matter, but I
could understand it more if it was one of those thankfully rare
scenarios where the red mist has come down and a player
deliberately goes out to take out an opponent, often brutally
and with no care in that instance, about the consequences.
I did find it interesting that the judge used the Laws of the
Game and the definitions in them to make their judgement.
#Post#: 61413--------------------------------------------------
Re: $103k damages for a reckless tackle!
DIR By: Seagull
Date: March 14, 2023, 10:10 am
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--- Quote from: aaa link ---
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> [quote author=Seagull link=topic=4677.msg61400#msg61400
date=1678794269]
> Interesting article bmb. I recall that occasionally, we would
discuss at RA Branch Meetings the matter of whether Referees
were adequately insured against being sued by a player or club
for alleged negligence, for example, playing a game where the
pitch conditions were doubtful and a player being injured or a
player alleging that a referee failed to safeguard him
adequately. Maybe clubs should have Liability Insurance if they
don't already?
>
--- End Quote ---
Under Law 5, match officials are covered and cannot be held
liable.
7. Liability of Match Officials
A referee or other match official is not held liable for:
any kind of injury suffered by a player, official or
spectator
any damage to property of any kind
any other loss suffered by any individual, club, company,
association or other body, which is due or which may be due to
any decision taken under the terms of the Laws of the Game or in
respect of the normal procedures required to hold, play and
control a match.
Such decisions may include a decision:
that the condition of the field of play or its surrounds or
that the weather conditions are such as to allow or not to allow
a match to take place
to abandon a match for whatever reason
as to the suitability of the field equipment and ball used
during a match
to stop or not to stop a match due to spectator interference
or any problem in spectator areas
to stop or not to stop play to allow an injured player to be
removed from the field of play for treatment
to require an injured player to be removed from the field of
play for treatment
to allow or not to allow a player to wear certain clothing
or equipment
where the referee has the authority, to allow or not to
allow any persons (including team or stadium officials, security
officers, photographers or other media representatives) to be
present in the vicinity of the field of play
any other decision taken in accordance with the Laws of the
Game or in conformity with their duties under the terms of FIFA,
confederation, national football association or competition
rules or regulations under which the match is played.
[/quote]
Very interesting and informative. Thank you. Is the wording a
relatively recent addition/amendment to Law 5? I don't recall it
in my day but I've been retired for 25 years.
#Post#: 61415--------------------------------------------------
Re: $103k damages for a reckless tackle!
DIR By: Ref Watcher
Date: March 14, 2023, 10:21 am
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--- Quote from: bmb link ---
>
> [quote author=Seagull link=topic=4677.msg61400#msg61400
date=1678794269]
> Interesting article bmb. I recall that occasionally, we would
discuss at RA Branch Meetings the matter of whether Referees
were adequately insured against being sued by a player or club
for alleged negligence, for example, playing a game where the
pitch conditions were doubtful and a player being injured or a
player alleging that a referee failed to safeguard him
adequately. Maybe clubs should have Liability Insurance if they
don't already?
>
--- End Quote ---
I would have thought that clubs are duty bound to have liability
insurance.
[/quote]
This. And that is why it is imperative that everyone taking
part in a game (referees included) needs to be sure that any
game has been sanctioned by the relevant authority otherwise any
insurance is likely to be invalid. Watch out for pre-season
friendlies. Certain games are automatically sanctioned, others
are not. Know the rules.
#Post#: 61493--------------------------------------------------
Re: $103k damages for a reckless tackle!
DIR By: nemesis
Date: March 15, 2023, 5:59 pm
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--- Quote from: Seagull link ---
>
> [quote author=aaa link=topic=4677.msg61405#msg61405
date=1678798887]
> [quote author=Seagull link=topic=4677.msg61400#msg61400
date=1678794269]
> Interesting article bmb. I recall that occasionally, we would
discuss at RA Branch Meetings the matter of whether Referees
were adequately insured against being sued by a player or club
for alleged negligence, for example, playing a game where the
pitch conditions were doubtful and a player being injured or a
player alleging that a referee failed to safeguard him
adequately. Maybe clubs should have Liability Insurance if they
don't already?
>
--- End Quote ---
Under Law 5, match officials are covered and cannot be held
liable.
7. Liability of Match Officials
A referee or other match official is not held liable for:
any kind of injury suffered by a player, official or
spectator
any damage to property of any kind
any other loss suffered by any individual, club, company,
association or other body, which is due or which may be due to
any decision taken under the terms of the Laws of the Game or in
respect of the normal procedures required to hold, play and
control a match.
Such decisions may include a decision:
that the condition of the field of play or its surrounds or
that the weather conditions are such as to allow or not to allow
a match to take place
to abandon a match for whatever reason
as to the suitability of the field equipment and ball used
during a match
to stop or not to stop a match due to spectator interference
or any problem in spectator areas
to stop or not to stop play to allow an injured player to be
removed from the field of play for treatment
to require an injured player to be removed from the field of
play for treatment
to allow or not to allow a player to wear certain clothing
or equipment
where the referee has the authority, to allow or not to
allow any persons (including team or stadium officials, security
officers, photographers or other media representatives) to be
present in the vicinity of the field of play
any other decision taken in accordance with the Laws of the
Game or in conformity with their duties under the terms of FIFA,
confederation, national football association or competition
rules or regulations under which the match is played.
[/quote]
Very interesting and informative. Thank you. Is the wording a
relatively recent addition/amendment to Law 5? I don't recall it
in my day but I've been retired for 25 years.
[/quote]
Just curious. Can the Laws of Football be usurped or over-ridden
by Common Law ?
#Post#: 61496--------------------------------------------------
Re: $103k damages for a reckless tackle!
DIR By: bmb
Date: March 15, 2023, 7:05 pm
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--- Quote from: nemesis link ---
>
> Just curious. Can the Laws of Football be usurped or
over-ridden by Common Law ?
>
--- End Quote ---
I have no idea. The judge in this case has now set a legal
precedent that gives the LOTG the same status effectively as
legislation so certainly in that state it is above common law in
the scheme of things, whether that would happen elsewhere is
open to debate I would think.
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