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       #Post#: 61230--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Time wasting premier league.
   DIR By: Acme Thunderer
       Date: March 12, 2023, 6:50 am
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       --- Quote from: Acme Thunderer link ---
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       > At least we shouldn't be getting so much time wasting with
       chit-chat on MOTD tonight! And as for ITV with their FL
       Highlights programme, one of these days I'm going to put a clock
       on how much FL football we actually see in two hours. I'll get
       my coat!
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Best MOTD in a long while. Goals galore, key incidents shown and
       absolutely no commentary or punditry. And I stayed awake
       throughout the 20 minutes. Keep it coming I say!
       #Post#: 61233--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Time wasting premier league.
   DIR By: ajb95
       Date: March 12, 2023, 7:42 am
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       I am all for free speech and I sympathise with lineker in that
       regard. However, motd has been a dismal, tedious watch for many
       years, in fact it must be around 5 years since I watched an
       episode in full
       #Post#: 61234--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Time wasting premier league.
   DIR By: Claretman
       Date: March 12, 2023, 8:39 am
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       --- Quote from: Acme Thunderer link ---
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       > [quote author=Acme Thunderer link=topic=4658.msg61189#msg61189
       date=1678547713]
       > At least we shouldn't be getting so much time wasting with
       chit-chat on MOTD tonight! And as for ITV with their FL
       Highlights programme, one of these days I'm going to put a clock
       on how much FL football we actually see in two hours. I'll get
       my coat!
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Best MOTD in a long while. Goals galore, key incidents shown and
       absolutely no commentary or punditry. And I stayed awake
       throughout the 20 minutes. Keep it coming I say!
       [/quote]
       The programme did not cater for the blind, which maybe against
       bbc regulations.
       The bbc are today showing wsl with world feed commentary so it
       could have been done, hope the national institute for the blind
       take action against the bbc.
       #Post#: 61266--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Time wasting premier league.
   DIR By: Leggy
       Date: March 12, 2023, 2:32 pm
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       --- Quote from: magpie1892 link ---
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       > Oppositiom player standing in front of the ball when trying to
       take a fk is another one that annoys me, book then for delaying
       restart and that will stop quickly
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       This was a mandatory caution when it was introduced and referees
       (certainly at Contrib Level) were hammered by Assessors for not
       enforcing it.  Another case of lack of back-bone in the face of
       whinging clubs.
       #Post#: 61275--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Time wasting premier league.
   DIR By: rustyref
       Date: March 12, 2023, 4:32 pm
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       --- Quote from: Claretman link ---
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       > [quote author=Acme Thunderer link=topic=4658.msg61230#msg61230
       date=1678621840]
       > [quote author=Acme Thunderer link=topic=4658.msg61189#msg61189
       date=1678547713]
       > At least we shouldn't be getting so much time wasting with
       chit-chat on MOTD tonight! And as for ITV with their FL
       Highlights programme, one of these days I'm going to put a clock
       on how much FL football we actually see in two hours. I'll get
       my coat!
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Best MOTD in a long while. Goals galore, key incidents shown and
       absolutely no commentary or punditry. And I stayed awake
       throughout the 20 minutes. Keep it coming I say!
       [/quote]
       The programme did not cater for the blind, which maybe against
       bbc regulations.
       The bbc are today showing wsl with world feed commentary so it
       could have been done, hope the national institute for the blind
       take action against the bbc.
       [/quote]
       WSL is different.  BBC are not licensed to use any other
       commentary feeds for MoTD on Premier League games, including
       those that are used by their BBC World broadcasts.  An outlier
       in the broadcast contract perhaps, but if they can't use their
       own commentators on EPL games they cannot use any other feeds.
       #Post#: 61278--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Time wasting premier league.
   DIR By: Claretman
       Date: March 12, 2023, 4:57 pm
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       --- Quote from: rustyref link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Claretman link=topic=4658.msg61234#msg61234
       date=1678628399]
       > [quote author=Acme Thunderer link=topic=4658.msg61230#msg61230
       date=1678621840]
       > [quote author=Acme Thunderer link=topic=4658.msg61189#msg61189
       date=1678547713]
       > At least we shouldn't be getting so much time wasting with
       chit-chat on MOTD tonight! And as for ITV with their FL
       Highlights programme, one of these days I'm going to put a clock
       on how much FL football we actually see in two hours. I'll get
       my coat!
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Best MOTD in a long while. Goals galore, key incidents shown and
       absolutely no commentary or punditry. And I stayed awake
       throughout the 20 minutes. Keep it coming I say!
       [/quote]
       The programme did not cater for the blind, which maybe against
       bbc regulations.
       The bbc are today showing wsl with world feed commentary so it
       could have been done, hope the national institute for the blind
       take action against the bbc.
       [/quote]
       WSL is different.  BBC are not licensed to use any other
       commentary feeds for MoTD on Premier League games, including
       those that are used by their BBC World broadcasts.  An outlier
       in the broadcast contract perhaps, but if they can't use their
       own commentators on EPL games they cannot use any other feeds.
       [/quote]
       Thanks for the info rustyref, i have recently seen that
       elsewhere in the press And happy you have corrected me.
       #Post#: 61280--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Time wasting premier league.
   DIR By: watfordref
       Date: March 12, 2023, 5:34 pm
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       Have to say I'm not convinced by Collina's arguments in the
       article.
       Players waste time to break up the flow of play and give their
       team time or get a breather & reorganise as much as waste time
       in my opinion. Adding additional time on will not stop that
       element of it.
       I think the best solution would be for referee's and authorities
       to take a much stricter line on time wasting and book players
       much earlier when it happens and then have the back bone to
       actually send players off if/when it continues. Too often I feel
       officials leave it too late in games to issue cautions to have
       an impact. I also feel referee's are so unlikely to give a
       player a second caution for timewasting that players continue to
       time waste even after a yellow in that knowledge. There would a
       short term uplift in dismissals for timewasting - but I feel it
       would have the greater long term impact rather than adding 10+
       minutes of stoppage time, in which players will still run the
       clock down and disrupt the flow of the game.
       #Post#: 61286--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Time wasting premier league.
   DIR By: Readingfan
       Date: March 12, 2023, 11:19 pm
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       I think both are possible.
       Adding on more additional time shouldn't be a substitute for not
       taking action against clear timewasting.
       But equally there are a lot of stoppages where either no one is
       to blame or blame is difficult to prove - VAR reviews, subs,
       injuries. I think accurately recording these and adding on the
       time lost would certainly be a move in the right direction and
       is long overdue.
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