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M OLIVER - Tottenham v Chelsea EFL Cup
DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
Date: January 8, 2019, 2:30 pm
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Good use of VAR by the team, a tight call for whether it was
offside but definitely a penalty and a card for Kepa.
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Re: M OLIVER - Tottenham v Chelsea EFL Cup
DIR By: DublinRef
Date: January 8, 2019, 2:38 pm
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--- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
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> Good use of VAR by the team, a tight call for whether it was
offside but definitely a penalty and a card for Kepa.
>
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Agreed. I'm assuming Oliver was going to award the penalty
anyway had there been no flag which is why he didn't look at the
screen as per the protocol as I understand it? He did look as if
he was about to point to the spot.
Additionally thought he gave a fantastic display of calm,
controlled and authoritative body language and communication,
superbly managed.
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Re: M OLIVER - Tottenham v Chelsea EFL Cup
DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
Date: January 8, 2019, 3:29 pm
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--- Quote from: DublinRef link ---
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> [quote author=TheThingFromLewes link=topic=459.msg3915#msg3915
date=1546979438]
> Good use of VAR by the team, a tight call for whether it was
offside but definitely a penalty and a card for Kepa.
>
--- End Quote ---
Agreed. I'm assuming Oliver was going to award the penalty
anyway had there been no flag which is why he didn't look at the
screen as per the protocol as I understand it? He did look as if
he was about to point to the spot.
Additionally thought he gave a fantastic display of calm,
controlled and authoritative body language and communication,
superbly managed.
[/quote]
Absolutely. Incidentally all the FIFA referees apart from
Kavanagh are out of commission from 27 Jan to Feb 1 in Portugal
doing a VAR course ahead of the CL introduction of the
technology.
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Re: M OLIVER - Tottenham v Chelsea EFL Cup
DIR By: DublinRef
Date: January 8, 2019, 3:39 pm
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--- Quote from: TheThingFromLewes link ---
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> [quote author=DublinRef link=topic=459.msg3918#msg3918
date=1546979912]
> [quote author=TheThingFromLewes link=topic=459.msg3915#msg3915
date=1546979438]
> Good use of VAR by the team, a tight call for whether it was
offside but definitely a penalty and a card for Kepa.
>
--- End Quote ---
Agreed. I'm assuming Oliver was going to award the penalty
anyway had there been no flag which is why he didn't look at the
screen as per the protocol as I understand it? He did look as if
he was about to point to the spot.
Additionally thought he gave a fantastic display of calm,
controlled and authoritative body language and communication,
superbly managed.
[/quote]
Absolutely. Incidentally all the FIFA referees apart from
Kavanagh are out of commission from 27 Jan to Feb 1 in Portugal
doing a VAR course ahead of the CL introduction of the
technology.
[/quote]
I think Kavanagh is on an introductory course that overlaps with
those dates
HTML http://kronikasedziowska.blogspot.com/2018/12/28th-introductory-course-for.html
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Re: M OLIVER - Tottenham v Chelsea EFL Cup
DIR By: Ashington46
Date: January 8, 2019, 4:06 pm
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I thought that Michael Oliver and his team were superb tonight
and this helped the game to flow and it was a decent match for
the neutral fan.
His fitness and positioning were superb and I also thought that
the penalty was going to be awarded and, although I am not a fan
of VAR, it was correct in this case.
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Re: M OLIVER - Tottenham v Chelsea EFL Cup
DIR By: QuoCob
Date: January 8, 2019, 5:17 pm
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I would have liked to have seen the view along the line for the
offside, Harry Kane's upper body appeared to be leant over the
virtual line drawn between the feet of both defender and
attacker?
If the VAR crew didn't have that and didn't have the same view
as the AR, have they guessed?
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Re: M OLIVER - Tottenham v Chelsea EFL Cup
DIR By: Readingfan
Date: January 8, 2019, 5:22 pm
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I think it was the correct decision.
I think they probably could have got to the decision quicker -
they seemed to look at the foul for the penalty four or five
times when it was clear at first viewing, although I guess they
perhaps had to consider if it was DOGSO or if the ball was still
in play, etc.
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Re: M OLIVER - Tottenham v Chelsea EFL Cup
DIR By: rustyref
Date: January 8, 2019, 5:24 pm
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I think that was pretty quick, 90 seconds considering they were
looking at both offside and a penalty. That was a great example
of VAR for me.
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Re: M OLIVER - Tottenham v Chelsea EFL Cup
DIR By: QuoCob
Date: January 8, 2019, 5:27 pm
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--- Quote from: Readingfan link ---
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> I think it was the correct decision.
>
> I think they probably could have got to the decision quicker -
they seemed to look at the foul for the penalty four or five
times when it was clear at first viewing, although I guess they
perhaps had to consider if it was DOGSO or if the ball was still
in play, etc.
>
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Might have been, but we/they haven't been given the along the
line view so how could they assuredly overrule the original
decision by the AR?
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Re: M OLIVER - Tottenham v Chelsea EFL Cup
DIR By: bmb
Date: January 8, 2019, 6:12 pm
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--- Quote from: QuoCob link ---
>
> I would have liked to have seen the view along the line for
the offside, Harry Kane's upper body appeared to be leant over
the virtual line drawn between the feet of both defender and
attacker?
> If the VAR crew didn't have that and didn't have the same view
as the AR, have they guessed?
>
--- End Quote ---
From twitter:
HTML https://twitter.com/kash1905ifb/status/1082765605067997185
Looks offside to me. AR seems to be about 2/3 feet ahead of the
last defender. I wasn't watching so he may well have been in
line originally if the defenders then moved upfield a bit,
leaving him slightly ahead of them.
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