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Re: Lee Mason Leaves PGMOL
DIR By: Hertsref123
Date: February 17, 2023, 4:04 pm
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--- Quote from: MCPridz link ---
>
> [quote author=Craven link=topic=4561.msg60102#msg60102
date=1676668080]
> The point is, MCPridz, that Mason has made a couple of
unacceptable high profile mistakes that have affected the
outcome of games. He has now been relieved of that role to
mitigate against it happening again. Or would you prefer him to
continue making these errors? Fairly self explanatory I’d have
thought
>
--- End Quote ---
Well no I don't and both high profile errors has been against my
team, I would prefer the points back or in the interest of
fairness at least replayed at the point of the incidents neither
is going to happen so what is the point, considering we are
fighting for the league
[/quote]
Think about the precedent that would set though, you would have
to replay a hell of a lot of matches, as other teams would
demand their games replayed as well, including Man City, and as
has been pointed out above brentford could easily score another
goal or two in that time.
#Post#: 60109--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lee Mason Leaves PGMOL
DIR By: MCPridz
Date: February 17, 2023, 4:06 pm
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--- Quote from: Hertsref123 link ---
>
> [quote author=MCPridz link=topic=4561.msg60104#msg60104
date=1676668804]
> [quote author=Craven link=topic=4561.msg60102#msg60102
date=1676668080]
> The point is, MCPridz, that Mason has made a couple of
unacceptable high profile mistakes that have affected the
outcome of games. He has now been relieved of that role to
mitigate against it happening again. Or would you prefer him to
continue making these errors? Fairly self explanatory I’d have
thought
>
--- End Quote ---
Well no I don't and both high profile errors has been against my
team, I would prefer the points back or in the interest of
fairness at least replayed at the point of the incidents neither
is going to happen so what is the point, considering we are
fighting for the league
[/quote]
Think about the precedent that would set though, you would have
to replay a hell of a lot of matches, as other teams would
demand their games replayed as well, including Man City, and as
has been pointed out above brentford could easily score another
goal or two in that time.
[/quote]
Oh I am not disputing that one bit, like you said Brentford
could score 1 or 2 goals in that period of time, and if they did
then fair play, if it was done legitimately and there was no
case to argue
#Post#: 60110--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lee Mason Leaves PGMOL
DIR By: MCPridz
Date: February 17, 2023, 4:07 pm
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--- Quote from: Craven link ---
>
> No, his other high profile error was disallowing a Newcastle
goal against Palace. Plenty of teams have suffered this season,
not just Arsenal, this isn’t all about them, as much as you’d
like to think it is
>
--- End Quote ---
No he ruled out Martinelli's goal against Utd which should of
stood as well
#Post#: 60111--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lee Mason Leaves PGMOL
DIR By: TVOS
Date: February 17, 2023, 4:10 pm
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--- Quote from: MCPridz link ---
>
> [quote author=Adam link=topic=4561.msg60106#msg60106
date=1676670813]
> [quote author=MCPridz link=topic=4561.msg60104#msg60104
date=1676668804]
> [quote author=Craven link=topic=4561.msg60102#msg60102
date=1676668080]
> The point is, MCPridz, that Mason has made a couple of
unacceptable high profile mistakes that have affected the
outcome of games. He has now been relieved of that role to
mitigate against it happening again. Or would you prefer him to
continue making these errors? Fairly self explanatory I’d have
thought
>
--- End Quote ---
Well no I don't and both high profile errors has been against my
team, I would prefer the points back or in the interest of
fairness at least replayed at the point of the incidents neither
is going to happen so what is the point, considering we are
fighting for the league
[/quote]
But if these errors cost us the league then there is going to be
one almighty uproar personally 1. I don't think we will win the
league and 2. we will lose it by more than 2 points which
wouldn't make a difference anyway
For starters, just because your fighting for the league doesn't
mean your the high and mighty. Secondly, the official in
question had been removes, in a professional sense that's all
that can be done. I echo Craven, fairly self explanatory.
[/quote]
Well if we lose the league by those 2 points which I don't think
we will anyway it will be more there will be 1 mighty uproar if
we did lose it by 2 points
[/quote]
But even if that goal had been disallowed, the game hadn't
finished, so no points had been gained, never mind lost.
#Post#: 60113--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lee Mason Leaves PGMOL
DIR By: MCPridz
Date: February 17, 2023, 4:17 pm
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--- Quote from: TVOS link ---
>
> [quote author=MCPridz link=topic=4561.msg60107#msg60107
date=1676671345]
> [quote author=Adam link=topic=4561.msg60106#msg60106
date=1676670813]
> [quote author=MCPridz link=topic=4561.msg60104#msg60104
date=1676668804]
> [quote author=Craven link=topic=4561.msg60102#msg60102
date=1676668080]
> The point is, MCPridz, that Mason has made a couple of
unacceptable high profile mistakes that have affected the
outcome of games. He has now been relieved of that role to
mitigate against it happening again. Or would you prefer him to
continue making these errors? Fairly self explanatory I’d have
thought
>
--- End Quote ---
Well no I don't and both high profile errors has been against my
team, I would prefer the points back or in the interest of
fairness at least replayed at the point of the incidents neither
is going to happen so what is the point, considering we are
fighting for the league
[/quote]
But if these errors cost us the league then there is going to be
one almighty uproar personally 1. I don't think we will win the
league and 2. we will lose it by more than 2 points which
wouldn't make a difference anyway
For starters, just because your fighting for the league doesn't
mean your the high and mighty. Secondly, the official in
question had been removes, in a professional sense that's all
that can be done. I echo Craven, fairly self explanatory.
[/quote]
Well if we lose the league by those 2 points which I don't think
we will anyway it will be more there will be 1 mighty uproar if
we did lose it by 2 points
[/quote]
But even if that goal had been disallowed, the game hadn't
finished, so no points had been gained, never mind lost.
[/quote]
So the fairest thing to of done would be to replay the game from
the point of the Brentford free-kick
#Post#: 60114--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lee Mason Leaves PGMOL
DIR By: Claretman
Date: February 17, 2023, 4:20 pm
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--- Quote from: MCPridz link ---
>
> [quote author=Adam link=topic=4561.msg60106#msg60106
date=1676670813]
> [quote author=MCPridz link=topic=4561.msg60104#msg60104
date=1676668804]
> [quote author=Craven link=topic=4561.msg60102#msg60102
date=1676668080]
> The point is, MCPridz, that Mason has made a couple of
unacceptable high profile mistakes that have affected the
outcome of games. He has now been relieved of that role to
mitigate against it happening again. Or would you prefer him to
continue making these errors? Fairly self explanatory I’d have
thought
>
--- End Quote ---
Well no I don't and both high profile errors has been against my
team, I would prefer the points back or in the interest of
fairness at least replayed at the point of the incidents neither
is going to happen so what is the point, considering we are
fighting for the league
[/quote]
But if these errors cost us the league then there is going to be
one almighty uproar personally 1. I don't think we will win the
league and 2. we will lose it by more than 2 points which
wouldn't make a difference anyway
For starters, just because your fighting for the league doesn't
mean your the high and mighty. Secondly, the official in
question had been removes, in a professional sense that's all
that can be done. I echo Craven, fairly self explanatory.
[/quote]
Well if we lose the league by those 2 points which I don't think
we will anyway it will be more there will be 1 mighty uproar if
we did lose it by 2 points
[/quote]
Refereeing errors will not cost you the league winners position,
missing chances, conceding sloppy goals or a poor disciplinary
record might well.
errors happen in football as sheffield united and bournemouth
found to their cost after goal line technology failure at villa
park during the first game back after the pandemic.
Whilst Lee Mason might not have been the best official to grace
this earth, he has had some very good games, been appointed to
some high profile games and should be congratulated on his
career achievements. I saw his premier league debut at the
riverside stadium middlesbrough feb 2006. In my opinion he
should have retired from on field duties a few seasons before he
did, i cant say he has been the best var and perhaps with
hindsight he may well wish he hadnt gone down the specialist var
route.
Has he been hounded out and will the game now expect heads on
the chopping block when mistakes are made?
I am sure Lee is very unhappy with himself for the mistakes he
has made and wishes he hadnt made those mistakes, but he is only
humanand i hope he gets The mental support he may need.
#Post#: 60115--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lee Mason Leaves PGMOL
DIR By: Claretman
Date: February 17, 2023, 4:22 pm
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--- Quote from: MCPridz link ---
>
> [quote author=TVOS link=topic=4561.msg60111#msg60111
date=1676671835]
> [quote author=MCPridz link=topic=4561.msg60107#msg60107
date=1676671345]
> [quote author=Adam link=topic=4561.msg60106#msg60106
date=1676670813]
> [quote author=MCPridz link=topic=4561.msg60104#msg60104
date=1676668804]
> [quote author=Craven link=topic=4561.msg60102#msg60102
date=1676668080]
> The point is, MCPridz, that Mason has made a couple of
unacceptable high profile mistakes that have affected the
outcome of games. He has now been relieved of that role to
mitigate against it happening again. Or would you prefer him to
continue making these errors? Fairly self explanatory I’d have
thought
>
--- End Quote ---
Well no I don't and both high profile errors has been against my
team, I would prefer the points back or in the interest of
fairness at least replayed at the point of the incidents neither
is going to happen so what is the point, considering we are
fighting for the league
[/quote]
But if these errors cost us the league then there is going to be
one almighty uproar personally 1. I don't think we will win the
league and 2. we will lose it by more than 2 points which
wouldn't make a difference anyway
For starters, just because your fighting for the league doesn't
mean your the high and mighty. Secondly, the official in
question had been removes, in a professional sense that's all
that can be done. I echo Craven, fairly self explanatory.
[/quote]
Well if we lose the league by those 2 points which I don't think
we will anyway it will be more there will be 1 mighty uproar if
we did lose it by 2 points
[/quote]
But even if that goal had been disallowed, the game hadn't
finished, so no points had been gained, never mind lost.
[/quote]
So the fairest thing to of done would be to replay the game from
the point of the Brentford free-kick
[/quote]
The season would be never ending if we replayed every game from
the point where the officials are deemed to have made an error.
#Post#: 60116--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lee Mason Leaves PGMOL
DIR By: rustyref
Date: February 17, 2023, 4:27 pm
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--- Quote from: MCPridz link ---
>
> [quote author=Craven link=topic=4561.msg60105#msg60105
date=1676670390]
> No, his other high profile error was disallowing a Newcastle
goal against Palace. Plenty of teams have suffered this season,
not just Arsenal, this isn’t all about them, as much as you’d
like to think it is
>
--- End Quote ---
No he ruled out Martinelli's goal against Utd which should of
stood as well
[/quote]
Arsenal gifted Man City two of their three goals through
ridiculous defending errors on Wednesday night. What
consequence will there be for the defenders that made those
mistakes, mistakes that ultimately are far more likely to cost
Arsenal the title than any refereeing errors?
#Post#: 60117--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lee Mason Leaves PGMOL
DIR By: MCPridz
Date: February 17, 2023, 4:28 pm
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--- Quote from: Claretman link ---
>
> [quote author=MCPridz link=topic=4561.msg60113#msg60113
date=1676672252]
> [quote author=TVOS link=topic=4561.msg60111#msg60111
date=1676671835]
> [quote author=MCPridz link=topic=4561.msg60107#msg60107
date=1676671345]
> [quote author=Adam link=topic=4561.msg60106#msg60106
date=1676670813]
> [quote author=MCPridz link=topic=4561.msg60104#msg60104
date=1676668804]
> [quote author=Craven link=topic=4561.msg60102#msg60102
date=1676668080]
> The point is, MCPridz, that Mason has made a couple of
unacceptable high profile mistakes that have affected the
outcome of games. He has now been relieved of that role to
mitigate against it happening again. Or would you prefer him to
continue making these errors? Fairly self explanatory I’d have
thought
>
--- End Quote ---
Well no I don't and both high profile errors has been against my
team, I would prefer the points back or in the interest of
fairness at least replayed at the point of the incidents neither
is going to happen so what is the point, considering we are
fighting for the league
[/quote]
But if these errors cost us the league then there is going to be
one almighty uproar personally 1. I don't think we will win the
league and 2. we will lose it by more than 2 points which
wouldn't make a difference anyway
For starters, just because your fighting for the league doesn't
mean your the high and mighty. Secondly, the official in
question had been removes, in a professional sense that's all
that can be done. I echo Craven, fairly self explanatory.
[/quote]
Well if we lose the league by those 2 points which I don't think
we will anyway it will be more there will be 1 mighty uproar if
we did lose it by 2 points
[/quote]
But even if that goal had been disallowed, the game hadn't
finished, so no points had been gained, never mind lost.
[/quote]
So the fairest thing to of done would be to replay the game from
the point of the Brentford free-kick
[/quote]
The season would be never ending if we replayed every game from
the point where the officials are deemed to have made an error.
[/quote]
Hence why I said it wouldn't happen
#Post#: 60118--------------------------------------------------
Re: Lee Mason Leaves PGMOL
DIR By: bruntyboy
Date: February 17, 2023, 4:29 pm
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--- Quote from: MCPridz link ---
>
> [quote author=Craven link=topic=4561.msg60105#msg60105
date=1676670390]
> No, his other high profile error was disallowing a Newcastle
goal against Palace. Plenty of teams have suffered this season,
not just Arsenal, this isn’t all about them, as much as you’d
like to think it is
>
--- End Quote ---
No he ruled out Martinelli's goal against Utd which should of
stood as well
[/quote]
No it shouldn't. It was a clear foul on Eriksen which the OFR
should have spotted in the first instance.
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