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#Post#: 59910--------------------------------------------------
the news today
DIR By: cwh
Date: February 13, 2023, 9:58 pm
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The latest news today about grass roots refereeing makes very
depressing reading -assaults,abuse,threats etc., -Chris Sutton
seen refereeing a junior match (obviously staged} is a bit of a
joke - although he make some valid points
I despair about how things are going - the situation seems to be
getting worse - much blame seems to be placed on the amount of
football seen on TV and the behaviour of the grossly overpaid
professional players
What is the answer - it seems that nobody really knows
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Re: the news today
DIR By: Failed Ref
Date: February 14, 2023, 2:32 am
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Reflects society in general, the unwillingness to clamp down on
bad behaviour or antisocial conduct. Football can do more, but
the underlying problem lies beyond football.
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Re: the news today
DIR By: Hertsref123
Date: February 14, 2023, 4:30 am
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The problem is dissent has become so widely accepted in
football, I read a lot of criticism of Gillet online for
punishing Lemina for dissent. Iv’e seen fans get mad at they’re
manager when he refrains from criticising the officials, for
example, a lot of Chelsea fans were criticising graham potter
last weekend for not slagging of the officials. A large amount
of supporters, players, managers, etc clearly think its totally
ok to abuse the match officials.
A lot of onus is Also on top flight referees to punish dissent
more often, while last weekend was a step in the right direction
for this,
I still noted a lot of dissent still going unpunished last
night, in the merseyside derby.
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Re: the news today
DIR By: nemesis
Date: February 14, 2023, 5:31 am
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--- Quote from: Failed Ref link ---
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> Reflects society in general, the unwillingness to clamp down
on bad behaviour or antisocial conduct. Football can do more,
but the underlying problem lies beyond football.
>
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Strange how rugby seems to have avoided the underlying problem.
The problem starts at the top with the FA being subservient to
the Premier League and impotent to take the drastic action
necessary to ensure the same levels of behaviour and respect
that other sports, not just rugby, enjoy. Their local gimmicky
actions and campaigns at grassroots level are undermined by what
everyone sees on television. The way to clean these augean
stables is to start at the top. The huge businesses and massive
vested financial interests mean this won't happen but at least
recognise what the issue is and don't just say "it's society's
fault".
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Re: the news today
DIR By: Whistleblower
Date: February 14, 2023, 6:06 am
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m'learned friend has hit the nail exactly. The FA is a craven
body now, quite subservient to the financial bidding of the
Premier League and while there is no desire to stamp out dissent
at the top level ( and despite this weekend past I am not
convinced that there is ) then it will continue to flourish and
be replicated in the amateur game through copycat behaviour.
If I were starting out refereeing now and sadly I am not at all
sure that I would be, I would choose my league very carefully
and only officiate in one where proper codes of discipline were
maintained. That always assumes there are still well run leagues
like that any more; I hope there are.
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Re: the news today
DIR By: nemesis
Date: February 14, 2023, 10:54 am
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--- Quote from: Whistleblower link ---
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> m'learned friend has hit the nail exactly. The FA is a craven
body now, quite subservient to the financial bidding of the
Premier League and while there is no desire to stamp out dissent
at the top level ( and despite this weekend past I am not
convinced that there is ) then it will continue to flourish and
be replicated in the amateur game through copycat behaviour.
>
> If I were starting out refereeing now and sadly I am not at
all sure that I would be, I would choose my league very
carefully and only officiate in one where proper codes of
discipline were maintained. That always assumes there are still
well run leagues like that any more; I hope there are.
>
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Leagues' hands are tied by often indolent County FAs.
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Re: the news today
DIR By: Whistleblower
Date: February 14, 2023, 11:48 am
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--- Quote from: nemesis link ---
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> [quote author=Whistleblower link=topic=4551.msg59933#msg59933
date=1676376392]
> m'learned friend has hit the nail exactly. The FA is a craven
body now, quite subservient to the financial bidding of the
Premier League and while there is no desire to stamp out dissent
at the top level ( and despite this weekend past I am not
convinced that there is ) then it will continue to flourish and
be replicated in the amateur game through copycat behaviour.
>
> If I were starting out refereeing now and sadly I am not at
all sure that I would be, I would choose my league very
carefully and only officiate in one where proper codes of
discipline were maintained. That always assumes there are still
well run leagues like that any more; I hope there are.
>
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Leagues' hands are tied by often indolent County FAs.
[/quote]
Sadly I can well believe this is so
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