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#Post#: 59212--------------------------------------------------
Dorking manager rant / Full Time referees in EFL / NL?
DIR By: lincs22
Date: January 31, 2023, 2:27 am
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I am sure you have all seen the rant by the Dorking manager /
Chairman / whatever other jobs he does after Saturday's match.
The National League is made up of mostly FT players (at the top
of their game) but the referees are still on their promotion
track. He doesn't seem to realise that the best referees get
promoted to the EFL and the NL is left with new trainees to fill
their spots. It is a similar point made by the Women's league
and League 1 & 2 clubs.
Since the players are FT, should we be looking at expanding the
pool of FT referees. I know it would cost the FA a massive sum,
but the extra training and resources must improve the quality of
the officials. Also, the FT could employ ex-pro's (which is what
they want to do) and get them though the system. With the
EPL/EFL. NL and WSL there would be 65-70 matches per weekend to
be covered. Working on the normal 1.5 officials per match, you
would need c100 referees and c100 assistants (as some assistants
may wish to retain their jobs and not become FT).
Any thoughts
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Re: Dorking manager rant / Full Time referees in EFL / NL?
DIR By: bmb
Date: January 31, 2023, 3:05 am
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No chance. League's 1 & 2 don't get full time referees so it's
not going to happen in the National league.
He needs to remember that rants like his are part of why so many
referees leave at grassroots level. There's a real crisis in
recruitment & retention, in a huge part down to the abuse
referees receive from people like him.
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Re: Dorking manager rant / Full Time referees in EFL / NL?
DIR By: Bakis
Date: January 31, 2023, 3:59 am
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I suspect that the history of Marc White's rants starts in the
Crawley League, continues through every division of the West
Sussex to where they are now and is in no way confined to
officials. It might be argued that if you happen to be the
founder, financier, chairman and manager of what by some
measures is England's most successful club you're more entitled
than most to have your say, but rather more tact and diplomacy
might be appreciated at times by those who otherwise respect his
undoubted achievements and the level of commitment that may lead
him to speak as he thinks he finds.
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Re: Dorking manager rant / Full Time referees in EFL / NL?
DIR By: nemesis
Date: January 31, 2023, 4:10 am
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--- Quote from: bmb link ---
>
> No chance. League's 1 & 2 don't get full time referees so it's
not going to happen in the National league.
>
> He needs to remember that rants like his are part of why so
many referees leave at grassroots level. There's a real crisis
in recruitment & retention, in a huge part down to the abuse
referees receive from people like him.
>
--- End Quote ---
Without knowing exactly what he said, I can understand where
he's coming from. Southend's demise from the Football League has
enabled me to witness any number of shocking performances in the
National League (of course there have been a few good ones, but
not that many). For many of the referees, this is their first
experiences of professional first team football and their first
experience of extreme professional, shall I say spoiling,
tactics and are simply out of their depth. They don't seem to do
that many games padding out appointments with women's games,
Fourthing and development football so the necessary experience
takes longer to acquire and the really good ones are whisked
through to FL in no time at all.
Unaffordable full-time referees down to the National League is
not the answer.
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Re: Dorking manager rant / Full Time referees in EFL / NL?
DIR By: Ref Watcher
Date: January 31, 2023, 6:04 am
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--- Quote from: lincs22 link ---
>
> I know it would cost the FA a massive sum, but the extra
training and resources must improve the quality of the
officials. Also, the FT could employ ex-pro's (which is what
they want to do) and get them though the system. With the
EPL/EFL. NL and WSL there would be 65-70 matches per weekend to
be covered. Working on the normal 1.5 officials per match, you
would need c100 referees and c100 assistants (as some assistants
may wish to retain their jobs and not become FT).
>
> Any thoughts
>
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There is no need for it to cost the FA anything. Call the bluff
of the complainants. Tell them that if they want full time
officials at their level they can have them and it will cost
them £xxxx per club per year. If they are not prepared to stump
up the cash then we will know how much of a priority it is for
them.
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