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Pgmo come out and say ……
DIR By: Observeref8
Date: January 30, 2023, 6:16 pm
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HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64461183
Coote ….. bar a couple the overall identify of SFP has gone
awful levels now, the challenge in real time screams red.
But good to see under Webb leadership they seem like they will
call out the bad decisions very similar to what they did in MLS.
Coote needs to start getting the card out now.
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Re: Pgmo come out and say ……
DIR By: dave26
Date: January 31, 2023, 12:32 am
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Brilliant this is exactly the kind of transparency that the PL
has badly needed. It is a shame ( unless I missed it ) that
they didn’t clarify the Rashford goal in the Manchester derby
but nonetheless this a small step in the right direction what
Webb is trying to do is still a work in progress but after this
I’m more convinced than ever Webbs plan that he is beginning to
implement is going to be a major success
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Re: Pgmo come out and say ……
DIR By: Whistleblower
Date: January 31, 2023, 2:02 am
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--- Quote from: dave26 link ---
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> Brilliant this is exactly the kind of transparency that the PL
has badly needed. It is a shame ( unless I missed it ) that
they didn’t clarify the Rashford goal in the Manchester derby
but nonetheless this a small step in the right direction what
Webb is trying to do is still a work in progress but after this
I’m more convinced than ever Webbs plan that he is beginning to
implement is going to be a major success
>
--- End Quote ---
Well I hope you are right; it would be good to believe so.
However, Coote being appointed to Everton v Arsenal this
week-end doesn't exactly fill me with confidence that there is
going to be any consequence for such very obvious errors.
Swarbrick was the VAR for the Brighton Liverpool match, perhaps
he hasn't got his eye in sufficiently well yet as to when to
advise an on field referee they have made a potentially serious
error and need to review.
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Re: Pgmo come out and say ……
DIR By: adcr85
Date: January 31, 2023, 3:06 am
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--- Quote from: dave26 link ---
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> Brilliant this is exactly the kind of transparency that the PL
has badly needed. It is a shame ( unless I missed it ) that
they didn’t clarify the Rashford goal in the Manchester derby
but nonetheless this a small step in the right direction what
Webb is trying to do is still a work in progress but after this
I’m more convinced than ever Webbs plan that he is beginning to
implement is going to be a major success
>
--- End Quote ---
Well personally I'm still happy with the Rashford decision (both
as a Utd fan and a referee), so no clarification needed...
But unfortuanately in this modern world we live, I think though
the intention is good, don't expect anything monumental.
Confirming a player should have been sent off in a cup tie his
team lost is one thing, but giving/not giving a goal for a team
that goes onto be relegated/win the league is probably opening
up themselves to some kind of liability, and possible legal
action (however unlikely to succeed it is). Same arguments as to
why refs don't talk after games.
Only solution to this would be to get all clubs to agree
(legally) to some sort of no complaint procedue that let refs
(or PGMOL) talk openly without fear of ramifications
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Re: Pgmo come out and say ……
DIR By: Microscopist
Date: January 31, 2023, 3:15 am
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BBC quote
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> As part of a drive for transparency within PGMOL, the
organisation has privately let it be known there was enough
evidence to warrant a red card.
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Why not make the statement openly if you want transparency?
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Re: Pgmo come out and say ……
DIR By: GingerReferee
Date: January 31, 2023, 3:37 am
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I've just seen the challenge and that's a red card every day of
the week, from the video I watched Coote had a good, decent
enough, view to see that so why is he not showing a red
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Re: Pgmo come out and say ……
DIR By: Hendo
Date: January 31, 2023, 3:45 am
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--- Quote from: adcr85 link ---
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> [quote author=dave26 link=topic=4506.msg59207#msg59207
date=1675146725]
> Brilliant this is exactly the kind of transparency that the PL
has badly needed. It is a shame ( unless I missed it ) that
they didn’t clarify the Rashford goal in the Manchester derby
but nonetheless this a small step in the right direction what
Webb is trying to do is still a work in progress but after this
I’m more convinced than ever Webbs plan that he is beginning to
implement is going to be a major success
>
--- End Quote ---
Well personally I'm still happy with the Rashford decision (both
as a Utd fan and a referee), so no clarification needed...
But unfortuanately in this modern world we live, I think though
the intention is good, don't expect anything monumental.
Confirming a player should have been sent off in a cup tie his
team lost is one thing, but giving/not giving a goal for a team
that goes onto be relegated/win the league is probably opening
up themselves to some kind of liability, and possible legal
action (however unlikely to succeed it is). Same arguments as to
why refs don't talk after games.
Only solution to this would be to get all clubs to agree
(legally) to some sort of no complaint procedue that let refs
(or PGMOL) talk openly without fear of ramifications
[/quote]
The truth is that many more are not happy with the Rashford
incident, in fact there is a lot of confusion. When ex players
and referees are also on record as claiming to be baffled then
it is a decision which would seem to merit an explanation, if
only to clarify the thinking behind the decision that he was not
interfering with play. I feel the PGMOL have missed a chance
there and as soon as an incident occurs where a player in a
similar offside position is deemed interfering then it will only
compound the confusion
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Re: Pgmo come out and say ……
DIR By: Blind Referee
Date: January 31, 2023, 6:02 am
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This error had no impact on the final result as Brighton still
won. The Utd game is different as the decision affected the
result - from those that I have spoken to within the
professional game (referees and observers) everyone considers
the Rashford decision incorrect - that’s why there has been no
official / unofficial statement - also need to factor in that
Michael Oliver was VAR on the Utd game - wouldn’t be considered
ideal to admit our “top referee” made a major mistake on a key
game
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Re: Pgmo come out and say ……
DIR By: TheOpinionOfTheReferee
Date: January 31, 2023, 8:15 am
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--- Quote from: dave26 link ---
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> Brilliant this is exactly the kind of transparency that the PL
has badly needed. It is a shame ( unless I missed it ) that
they didn’t clarify the Rashford goal in the Manchester derby
but nonetheless this a small step in the right direction what
Webb is trying to do is still a work in progress but after this
I’m more convinced than ever Webbs plan that he is beginning to
implement is going to be a major success
>
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Webb went on sky and was, imo, pretty non committal either way
about whether the decision was right or wrong.
Said that it had caused division of opinion between all
stakeholders including the PGMO group.
What he said was that the no offside was justifiable with the
way the law was written but that the better decision would have
been offside based on feedback from rereeing community and that
it could be stretched to say that ederson was impacted by
rashford....
Not a direct quote the video is out there somewhere but that was
my take away
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