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       Re: A TAYLOR - Man C v Liverpool
   DIR By: nemesis
       Date: January 4, 2019, 12:23 pm
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       > Is this the same Clattenburg who failed to send off Rooney for
       a vicious elbowing even after reviewing video evidence
       considered it accidental? Or the same Hackett who was the most
       overrated Ref if the 1980s? Not condoning Kompany but City has
       some atrocious fouls against them last season which were weakly
       dealt with, so a lot of it is swings and roundabouts
       > Interesting that nobody has yet mentioned that Kompany’s
       tackle was Not as bad as it might have been because Salah was
       already in the process of “tumbling over” to try and win himself
       a cheap free kick (Not that it would cross his mind to do so
       normally of course)
       >
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       Never mind the 80s, he was dreadful in 1979 (17th Jan to be
       specific).
       #Post#: 3779--------------------------------------------------
       Re: A TAYLOR - Man C v Liverpool
   DIR By: bruntyboy
       Date: January 4, 2019, 1:14 pm
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       --- Quote from: Plym-Nick link ---
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       > Thought he had a decent game keeping good control and playing
       his part in a good football match. My biggest disappointment is
       his failure to deal with the city managers aggressive behaviour
       towards Martin Atkinson. This set us back years in the fight
       against abuse from managersat lower levels. The laws are the
       same throughout the game however mr taylor bottled it. If he
       didnt bottle it and chose to take no action then that is even
       worse. Had that been steve evans joey Barton or Derek adams a
       red card would no doubt have followed but surely the laws are to
       be enforced at all levels not just league one and below.
       >
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       Perhaps they were remembering a similar incident with Klopp and
       the AAR when Klopp wasn't punished as the AAR said he was just
       being "enthusiatic" or some such term.
       #Post#: 3784--------------------------------------------------
       Re: A TAYLOR - Man C v Liverpool
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: January 4, 2019, 3:35 pm
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       Pep has been given a warning by the FA:
  HTML https://www.90min.com/posts/6263244-fa-warn-manchester-city-boss-pep-guardiola-after-side-s-2-1-win-over-liverpool/partners/42260
       #Post#: 3786--------------------------------------------------
       Re: A TAYLOR - Man C v Liverpool
   DIR By: DublinRef
       Date: January 4, 2019, 4:00 pm
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       --- Quote from: Plym-Nick link ---
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       > [quote author=highfieldlatic link=topic=446.msg3762#msg3762
       date=1546604376]
       > Some people seem to forget the highly charged emotions that
       human beings (managers) are experiencing in these situations.
       > Mr Guadeola (sp?)had just witnessed a foul on one of his
       players that Mr Taylor had failed to see/ignored ( and not for
       the first time in the game), leading to a very dangerous
       defensive situation that should not have been allowed to
       develop. It is understandable that he was frustrated and angry.
       > Also, we do not know what response he received from Mr
       Atkinson. Could it have been dismissive/arrogant or similar? We
       do not know but  feel we should not be demanding coldly applied
       sanctions for a highly tense emotional situation judged solely
       from a distant TV view.
       > (NB I am not a City supporter).
       >
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       Then this should apply across the board , all managers from prem
       to grassroots must now be allowed to abuse officials because
       they are frustrated and angry.
       [/quote]
       Absolutely agree and also in terms of managers being frustrated
       and having to be allowed to vent being human beings etc, week in
       week out we see rugby players involved in massive collisions,
       far greater than those in football yet they manage to keep their
       heads and not run and scream at the referee for me he does it
       simply as Pep knows he'll get away with it or get a slap on the
       wrist at worst. If Pep knew he was going to be sent to the
       stands and stay there for say the next 5-10 games do you think
       he might've controlled himself?
       FA need to back the referees better in these cases and the top
       referees need to set the example for further down the chain,
       whens the last time there's been a red card in the EPL for
       abusing a referee? I'm all for managing players as much as
       possible and I'm all for leniency and understanding but some of
       the antics are becoming a joke and in my view contribute to the
       to violence in the lower leagues as we saw in my country
       recently
       Rant over I promise!!!  ;) ;)
       #Post#: 3787--------------------------------------------------
       Re: A TAYLOR - Man C v Liverpool
   DIR By: guest4
       Date: January 4, 2019, 4:54 pm
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       --- Quote from: bmb link ---
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       > Pep has been given a warning by the FA:
  HTML https://www.90min.com/posts/6263244-fa-warn-manchester-city-boss-pep-guardiola-after-side-s-2-1-win-over-liverpool/partners/42260
       >
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       Pathetic!
       #Post#: 3788--------------------------------------------------
       Re: A TAYLOR - Man C v Liverpool
   DIR By: dave26
       Date: January 4, 2019, 5:05 pm
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       Ami the only one who thought it was actually a Man City player
       that should have been penalised in the incident that guardiola
       lost his cool at ?
       #Post#: 3789--------------------------------------------------
       Re: A TAYLOR - Man C v Liverpool
   DIR By: Microscopist
       Date: January 4, 2019, 5:17 pm
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       --- Quote from: bmb link ---
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       > Pep has been given a warning by the FA:
  HTML https://www.90min.com/posts/6263244-fa-warn-manchester-city-boss-pep-guardiola-after-side-s-2-1-win-over-liverpool/partners/42260
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Apparently wearing a yellow ribbon is more serious?
       #Post#: 3791--------------------------------------------------
       Re: A TAYLOR - Man C v Liverpool
   DIR By: guest4
       Date: January 4, 2019, 6:15 pm
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       --- Quote from: Microscopist link ---
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       > [quote author=bmb link=topic=446.msg3784#msg3784
       date=1546637718]
       > Pep has been given a warning by the FA:
  HTML https://www.90min.com/posts/6263244-fa-warn-manchester-city-boss-pep-guardiola-after-side-s-2-1-win-over-liverpool/partners/42260
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Apparently wearing a yellow ribbon is more serious?
       [/quote]
       Or forgetting a coin for the toss up!
       #Post#: 3792--------------------------------------------------
       Re: A TAYLOR - Man C v Liverpool
   DIR By: Proudgayref
       Date: January 4, 2019, 8:05 pm
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       I thought he had a superb game!
       I’m normally critical of him but he did really well, so come on
       guys give him a break!
       #Post#: 3864--------------------------------------------------
       Re: A TAYLOR - Man C v Liverpool
   DIR By: bmb
       Date: January 6, 2019, 4:05 pm
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       --- Quote from: Hendo link ---
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       >
       > Is this the same Clattenburg who failed to send off Rooney for
       a vicious elbowing even after reviewing video evidence
       considered it accidental?
       >
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       What video evidence are you on about? None was available to him
       during the game and after the game, and repeatedly since, he has
       always said it was a wrong call and Rooney deserved more!  A
       recent quote:
       Just consider the story Mark Clattenburg tells about one match
       between Manchester United and Wigan when he was the referee who
       made a poor call for what should have been a clear red-card
       offence. “I gave a free-kick against Wayne Rooney when, having
       later seen the replays, he deserved more,” Clattenburg says. “He
       had elbowed Wigan’s James McCarthy but the FA decided to take no
       disciplinary action because I had apparently dealt with it on
       the pitch.”
       The system, Clattenburg says with some justification, is
       entirely flawed. Yet the most relevant part of that story is
       that he was referring to a match from 2011. It goes back even
       further – longer, indeed, than I can even remember – and every
       time one of these incidents comes up it doesn’t make a blind bit
       of difference that the referee, in the vast majority of cases,
       is willing to accept he made a lousy call. All the FA wants to
       know is whether the relevant official had a view of the incident
       – and, if so, the case is closed.
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