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#Post#: 57907--------------------------------------------------
Liverpool v Wolves FA Cup
DIR By: ajb95
Date: January 7, 2023, 4:21 pm
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Can someone please explain the “offside goals”. I have had a
look at the rules and to me it seems to be very unfair on
wolves.
ITV suggesting the wolves disallowed goal is correct but I
haven’t seen any evidence to confirm it is
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Re: Liverpool v Wolves FA Cup
DIR By: Ref95
Date: January 7, 2023, 4:35 pm
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--- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
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> Can someone please explain the “offside goals”. I have had a
look at the rules and to me it seems to be very unfair on
wolves.
>
> ITV suggesting the wolves disallowed goal is correct but I
haven’t seen any evidence to confirm it is
>
--- End Quote ---
The Salah goal has been allowed to stand because the Wolves
player was deemed to deliberately play the ball, harsh on Wolves
but current under current law.
Not a clue on the Wolves disallowed goal because the ‘goal
scorer’ was clearly onside. Can only assume it was the corner
taker given offside but ITV failed to show a single replay with
lines in place so who knows! I had it muted, maybe they
explained why on commentary.
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Re: Liverpool v Wolves FA Cup
DIR By: Irishref1985
Date: January 7, 2023, 4:36 pm
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I'm only assuming that the offside was given when the corner
kick taker came back from an offside position before delivering
a cross back into the penalty area. Seemingly the positioning of
the cameras could 100% confirm to VAR whether it was onside or
offside so the on-field decision was kept.
#Post#: 57911--------------------------------------------------
Re: Liverpool v Wolves FA Cup
DIR By: Claretman
Date: January 7, 2023, 4:41 pm
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--- Quote from: ajb95 link ---
>
> Can someone please explain the “offside goals”. I have had a
look at the rules and to me it seems to be very unfair on
wolves.
>
> ITV suggesting the wolves disallowed goal is correct but I
haven’t seen any evidence to confirm it is
>
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The liverpool goal by salah is correct to stand, once the
defender makes a genuine play for the ball and touches it then
play resets. I dont like this element of the law i agree, it is
unfair on the defending team.
With respect to the Wolves goal being ruled out, the
commentators said that the corner kick taker was deemed to be in
an offside position when the ball was played back to him, hence
the assistant flagged.
They also said they had to stay with the onfield decision as
there were no camera angles available to check this, i assume
that info is what the commentators had been fed by the powers
that be.
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Re: Liverpool v Wolves FA Cup
DIR By: bruntyboy
Date: January 7, 2023, 6:53 pm
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--- Quote from: Claretman link ---
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> [quote author=ajb95 link=topic=4401.msg57907#msg57907
date=1673130097]
> Can someone please explain the “offside goals”. I have had a
look at the rules and to me it seems to be very unfair on
wolves.
>
> ITV suggesting the wolves disallowed goal is correct but I
haven’t seen any evidence to confirm it is
>
--- End Quote ---
The liverpool goal by salah is correct to stand, once the
defender makes a genuine play for the ball and touches it then
play resets. I dont like this element of the law i agree, it is
unfair on the defending team.
With respect to the Wolves goal being ruled out, the
commentators said that the corner kick taker was deemed to be in
an offside position when the ball was played back to him, hence
the assistant flagged.
They also said they had to stay with the onfield decision as
there were no camera angles available to check this, i assume
that info is what the commentators had been fed by the powers
that be.
[/quote]
Having just watched the highlights on MOTD the AR clearly has
his flag down after the goal is scored and starts to run back
towards the half way line. He did not stand his ground level
with the six yard box and raise his flag. When was the offside
decision made? Also when the ball went back out to the corner
taker there was a second Wolves header before it got to him
which presumably created a new phase of play. Was that second
header taken into account?
#Post#: 57926--------------------------------------------------
Re: Liverpool v Wolves FA Cup
DIR By: badref
Date: January 8, 2023, 4:38 am
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Got a better view of the offside decision from a fan camera.
Looks onside to me from the 2nd header?
HTML https://twitter.com/NunoArmy/status/1611861907207585792?s=20&t=qDwKXb9XZE1DkjnYiiEw3A
#Post#: 57990--------------------------------------------------
Re: Liverpool v Wolves FA Cup
DIR By: jacksamuel21
Date: January 9, 2023, 7:49 am
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Only issue really on Madley's part is the missed YC for the
removal of the shirt
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Re: Liverpool v Wolves FA Cup
DIR By: doowe
Date: January 9, 2023, 11:22 am
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--- Quote from: jacksamuel21 link ---
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> Only issue really on Madley's part is the missed YC for the
removal of the shirt
>
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Interesting point that! Because, as it turned out, it wasn’t a
goal celebration
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Re: Liverpool v Wolves FA Cup
DIR By: Leggy
Date: January 9, 2023, 12:16 pm
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--- Quote from: doowe link ---
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> [quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=4401.msg57990#msg57990
date=1673272195]
> Only issue really on Madley's part is the missed YC for the
removal of the shirt
>
--- End Quote ---
Interesting point that! Because, as it turned out, it wasn’t a
goal celebration
[/quote]
A caution should still be issued, as per Law:
A player must be cautioned, even if the goal is disallowed, for:
• climbing onto a perimeter fence and/or approaching the
spectators in a manner which causes safety and/or security
issues
• acting in a provocative, derisory or inflammatory way
• covering the head or face with a mask or other similar
item
• removing the shirt or covering the head with the shirt
#Post#: 58157--------------------------------------------------
Re: Liverpool v Wolves FA Cup
DIR By: bruntyboy
Date: January 12, 2023, 4:34 pm
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--- Quote from: Adam link ---
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> Howard Webb was at Wolves today speaking to Lopetegui and Co
about why the goal couldn't be given on Saturday. Nice to see a
hands on approach right from the top.
>
> SKY also say a word was had about the antics at Forest last
night as well post match.
>
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The non-tv view is a side issue. Did he explain to them why
offside was given in the first place?
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