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#Post#: 54890--------------------------------------------------
Messrs. Parker, Joslin & Short
DIR By: Seagull
Date: November 12, 2022, 6:43 am
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A programme photo from a fixture due to be played on Saturday
15th August 1992 that never took place as Maidstone United
resigned from the league. I love the write up on Referee Mr.
E.J. Parker whose hobbies include "collecting old money".
[emoji2] Nowadays, they don't even tell you the Referee's home
town! A sign of the times, I suppose. Does anybody have any
further information on the three gentlemen? I believe Mr. Joslin
was from Notts and was appointed to the EFL Referee's list
subsequently.
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Re: Messrs. Parker, Joslin & Short
DIR By: mauricelapin
Date: November 12, 2022, 10:41 am
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I think that P.J. Joslin was Phil Joslin (of Newark?), who did
indeed make the referee's list subsequently.
#Post#: 54927--------------------------------------------------
Re: Messrs. Parker, Joslin & Short
DIR By: John Treleven
Date: November 12, 2022, 2:45 pm
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Edward James "Jim" Parker (Preston) b Q1 1947
F.L. referee 1987-88 to 1994-95
Then worked at Lancashire F.A. until retiring at Xmas 2018
Philip J. "Phil" Joslin (Newark) b 23.03.1959
F.L. referee 1999-00 to 2007-08
Muratti referee 2005
Martyn Lee Short (Grantham) b 23.03.1957
died 2006
#Post#: 54929--------------------------------------------------
Re: Messrs. Parker, Joslin & Short
DIR By: RCG
Date: November 12, 2022, 3:38 pm
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I believe both Joslin and Short made it to the Premier League
assistants list, with the former becoming a FIFA assistant.
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Re: Messrs. Parker, Joslin & Short
DIR By: Seagull
Date: November 13, 2022, 6:31 am
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--- Quote from: John Treleven link ---
>
> Edward James "Jim" Parker (Preston) b Q1 1947
> F.L. referee 1987-88 to 1994-95
> Then worked at Lancashire F.A. until retiring at Xmas 2018
>
> Philip J. "Phil" Joslin (Newark) b 23.03.1959
> F.L. referee 1999-00 to 2007-08
> Muratti referee 2005
>
> Martyn Lee Short (Grantham) b 23.03.1957
> died 2006
>
--- End Quote ---
Thanks for the info, John. Sad that Mr. Short died at such a
young age.
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Re: Messrs. Parker, Joslin & Short
DIR By: Leggy
Date: November 13, 2022, 6:46 am
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--- Quote from: John Treleven link ---
>
> Edward James "Jim" Parker (Preston) b Q1 1947
> F.L. referee 1987-88 to 1994-95
> Then worked at Lancashire F.A. until retiring at Xmas 2018
>
> Philip J. "Phil" Joslin (Newark) b 23.03.1959
> F.L. referee 1999-00 to 2007-08
> Muratti referee 2005
>
> Martyn Lee Short (Grantham) b 23.03.1957
> died 2006
>
--- End Quote ---
Jim Parker was also a qualified FA Referee's Instructor - I was
on the same course as him back in the 90's - a very funny man.
When required he had the fastest red card in the (north) west.
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Re: Messrs. Parker, Joslin & Short
DIR By: Acme Thunderer
Date: November 13, 2022, 10:20 am
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Phil Joslin refereed the FL Trophy Final at Wembley in 2008, MKD
v Grimsby, his last season on the list, although Wiki has him
down as coming from Kent then (mistaken for Phil Crossley
perhaps?)
#Post#: 54994--------------------------------------------------
Re: Messrs. Parker, Joslin & Short
DIR By: TVOS
Date: November 14, 2022, 12:22 pm
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Clubs aren't allowed to give locations of officials in their
programmes, as per an EFL edict.
That's the same EFL who listed all the locations on their
website in July!
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Re: Messrs. Parker, Joslin & Short
DIR By: TheThingFromLewes
Date: November 14, 2022, 3:30 pm
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--- Quote from: Leggy link ---
>
> [quote author=John Treleven link=topic=4163.msg54927#msg54927
date=1668285914]
> Edward James "Jim" Parker (Preston) b Q1 1947
> F.L. referee 1987-88 to 1994-95
> Then worked at Lancashire F.A. until retiring at Xmas 2018
>
> Philip J. "Phil" Joslin (Newark) b 23.03.1959
> F.L. referee 1999-00 to 2007-08
> Muratti referee 2005
>
> Martyn Lee Short (Grantham) b 23.03.1957
> died 2006
>
--- End Quote ---
Jim Parker was also a qualified FA Referee's Instructor - I was
on the same course as him back in the 90's - a very funny man.
When required he had the fastest red card in the (north) west.
[/quote]
His red card must have needed replacing on countless occasions
given his willingness to thrust it in the air!
He certainly falls into the category of a “card shark”.
😜
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Re: Messrs. Parker, Joslin & Short
DIR By: John Treleven
Date: November 15, 2022, 11:57 am
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Northern Echo, 25th April 2005
Parker, the King of cards
The unscripted story so far: following the little contretemps
between Messrs Bowyer and Dyer, former referee Eric Henderson
rings to recall a similar civil war outbreak at Darlington,
probably late 1980s. Eric can't remember the opposition, only
that two of their players were sent off by referee Jim Parker
after an attack of the internecines.
The following day we're at Lancashire F.A. headquarters in
Leyland to chat with Derek Lewin, a scorer in each of Bishop
Auckland's hat trick of Amateur Cup wins from 1955-57. After an
agreeable couple of hours, we're heading for the door and for
the station when Derek observes that the chap over yon was a
Football League referee. "Oh aye, what's his name?" "Jim
Parker." Serendipity squared.
Remember E J Parker, aka the Preston Strangler, aka many things
much ruder?
Oh aye, that match were nothing, says Jim - for he is a good
Lancastrian - there were a much better match involving
Darlington the year after. Then there was York v Scarborough,
during which City manager John Bird became so agitated that he
had to be reminded of the error of his ways by the North
Yorkshire constabulary. That were another of my riots, says Jim.
Did you have many, then? asks a sympathetic colleague. Oh aye,
lots.
Jim Parker had more cards than Clintons, more headlines than a
phrenologists' convention. In a much traduced calling, he was
the hacky blackest of the black sheep. The Observer updated his
card count every Sunday, a cautionary tale if ever, others wrote
of black books and of red mist. Oh I could be a bad bugger, he
says. Either they played it my way or they didn't play it at
all. Perhaps inevitably, therefore, he is thoroughly and
immediately likeable, a man of immense charm and of great good
humour. Still refereeing junior games, he'd sent off a schoolboy
the previous Saturday for head butting. A schoolboy, he repeats.
I ask you.
In his ten years in the Football League middle, 1985-95, he was
formally described as a Preston garage owner. Now 59, he works
full time for Lancashire F.A. Discipline officer, he says, what
else? The match which Eric Henderson remembers was a Leyland Daf
Cup tie in December 1990, Andy Toman's hat-trick ultimately
giving Quakers a 3-1 win. I were down the bottom end and saw
something going off, when I got there the language were
terrible, Jim recalls. I sent one off straightaway, to try to
separate them, and then finally sent off the other one. I
remember to this day him saying that he'd sort it out in the
dressing room and tearing off after his mate. I believe there
was a helluva battle. Both received two match bans, the referee
accepting that no blows had actually been exchanged on the
pitch.
Eleven months later, Chesterfield were at Feethams in an F.A.
Cup first round tie, nine players booked, three more, all from
Chesterfield, sent prematurely packing. They included Teesside
lad Lee Turnbull. Headlined "Parker's three card trick", the
Echo report noted that it brought his seasonal yellow card total
to 86, his red cards to nine in four games and that both
sections of the crowd had rehearsed the song familiarly reserved
for out of favour referees. Though it didn't provide the words,
which seemed a bit of a pity, the report added that the match
had had just one "borderline" tackle. "Mr. Parker maintained his
reputation as the Football League's king of the cards."
Jim Parker - short shorts, shorter shrift - has much more by
which to remember it. From out of a Lancashire F.A. filing
cabinet come merrily tumbling Chesterfield's fuming fanzine, the
Daily Telegraph's off-with-his-head headline, a T-shirt produced
by Mission Impossible, Darlington's own lamented fanzine. "I
wasn't booked by Jim Parker," it says in six inch capitals. They
can't have sold many of those, then. The Crooked Spireite,
Chesterfield's fanzine, devoted nine paroxysmal pages to the man
they simply called EJ, including a rather neat cartoon - he
liked it, too - called "Dr Frankenstein builds his creature."
EJ, they said, was free to roam the countryside ruining people's
livelihoods by sending them off for sod all. Every footballer
and supporter in Preston has a duty to brick up his front door,
let his tyres down and sow minefields across his front lawn
every Saturday morning. We have to stop him somehow.
The F.A. rejected all three appeals - looking for fairness from
them is like looking for a condom machine in the Vatican toilets
said the Crooked Spireite - though EJ himself once ended up
before an F.A. tribunal, charged with bringing the game into
disrepute. The allegation was that he'd called Justin Robson,
Bryan's kid brother, a f...ing fanny, Jim Parker's defence that
he'd simply called him a fanny. He was represented by Peter
Willis, the former County Durham police who in 21 years as
national president of the Referees' Association handled dozens
of similar cases and, like some Victorian panacea, was never
known to fail. The fanny business maintained his 100 per cent
record. Formidable feller, Peter, says Jim Parker.
After a hands on experience with the Preston Strangler, he
offers us a lift back to the station, not just to Leyland, but
to Preston, and a chance to further reminiscence. Happy days? Oh
aye, says the Strangler, the happiest days of my life.
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